Mutinies and the Yearning to Return

[kenny]

Hail Jim And MichaelAnd respect to your knowledge in the succesions and bickering.Im afraid my Interest in Greko Macedonia following Alexanders death is somewhat lacking. I moved on to Roman Studies.Your spot on as soon as Alexander went foreward the Satrapies and governers kicked off. I put his atrocities down to those actions I mean He fights sets up what he feels is a fair system and once hes gone they kick off. Every where they did it From looting Cyrus tomb to his buddy Harpalus not once but twice making off with the loot and setting himself up as king wherever he was.Its always brought up about Alexanders purges when he returned but upon taking a close look I would wager the majority got what they deserve. Id wager they thought well Alexanders in India and its unlikely hes comming out of the Makran. A case of mice playing whilst the cats away only the cat came back.With respect to you 2 guys its obvious Alexander didnt have the loyalty antwhere to hold his empire or achieve what he wanted.I guess second best would be to conquer. I dont think there was any threat from Greece Macedonia, Craterus or anywhere. They were Always divided and would forever be. Alexanders will of comand and Persona would take them anytime.Just remember why the Romans took Macedonia and Greece so easy. Is because they were never united.They would Argue over the Proverbial S**t.m in total agreeance Headlights and get out of the way fast enough. Just remember our guy was and is the worlds first and readily accepted the Greatest commander bar none. By the time Alexander got back to Babylon Emiseries from Both Carthage and Rome were sending envoys to get on his good side.Greece and Macedonia were only Strong under Philip and Alexander even then they were not united.If they had been and played the Game its fare to Say Rome would never have gotten off the ground.Only my opinion. Inity breeds strenght. Division is week and its always been quoted its easier to divide and conquer. And The Greeks were always divided.Kenny

[typhoeus]

It's a shame the movie on Alexander wasn't a ten part series , that way it could cover the events after Alexander's death and how the Romans took over Alexander's empire.Never know, maybe someone will try that next.

[typhoeus]

It's a shame the movie on Alexander wasn't a ten part series , that way it could cover the events after Alexander's death and how the Romans took over Alexander's empire.Never know, maybe someone will try that next.

[jan]

HiKennyx, I think that the x's are the problem. No, I did not get your e-mail but it is o.k. I can imagine you in your helmet. Just never grew up, you said.I did send you a post through my yahoo server, and hope that you got it. Hope it didn't make you sore at me. If you didn't get it, well, don't worry, I was just charging you with being guilty of pulling my leg a bit.If you did get it then you know what I mean. I think that a person as well read as you appear to be are probably Robin Lane Fox in disguise. Just teasing you....Jan

[jan]

HiKennyx, I think that the x's are the problem. No, I did not get your e-mail but it is o.k. I can imagine you in your helmet. Just never grew up, you said.I did send you a post through my yahoo server, and hope that you got it. Hope it didn't make you sore at me. If you didn't get it, well, don't worry, I was just charging you with being guilty of pulling my leg a bit.If you did get it then you know what I mean. I think that a person as well read as you appear to be are probably Robin Lane Fox in disguise. Just teasing you....Jan

[kenny]

Janet HiRobin Lane Fox is better looking. Besides I wouldnt last 5 minutes at any university.I didnt get any E Mails and Never take offence at allk say what you like. Indeed I only take the hump when I try to defend Alexander if I feel something siad wrong.Please Try .megasmacedon@yahoo.co.uk
Take care kenny

[kenny]

Janet HiRobin Lane Fox is better looking. Besides I wouldnt last 5 minutes at any university.I didnt get any E Mails and Never take offence at allk say what you like. Indeed I only take the hump when I try to defend Alexander if I feel something siad wrong.Please Try .megasmacedon@yahoo.co.uk
Take care kenny

[Nicator]

You,ve both hit on an important issue. Perhaps, Alexander was indeed looking at the messy situation all around the empire as simply a whole bunch of administrative gobbldy-gook, better suited for a regent than a king. But in my mind, there was some hesitation on his part that went a bit deeper. Was Alexander afraid to battle Antipater? Was the Arabian campaign an escape to show that he was still the man without proving it? It almost screams of a deep seated insecurity. He seemed to be avoiding the issues, by escaping into campaigning. The big picture still affords him the luxury of at least being able to say he was just expanding the empire, through Arabia, Sicily, Italy, Carthage, Spain, et al forever, never intending to return home. Perhaps, just waiting till the old rope keeled over from old age before venturing within range. Maybe it wasn't fear of Antipater, but the dread of having to remove him. Antipater, in my mind, held a different relationship with Alexander than Parmenion. He was his acting conscience when the 16 year old Alexander provided regency responsibilities for Philip. Surely, he was there first and foremost with Olympias for the ascension, before Parmenion could be roped in. He was important in Alexander's life, and this made it probably a difficult decision. Of course, the web of intrigue that Alexander would have been faced with in Macedon made it a dangerous endeavor. As Antipater was simply too well entrenched for Alexander to risk the return. later Nicator

[Nicator]

You,ve both hit on an important issue. Perhaps, Alexander was indeed looking at the messy situation all around the empire as simply a whole bunch of administrative gobbldy-gook, better suited for a regent than a king. But in my mind, there was some hesitation on his part that went a bit deeper. Was Alexander afraid to battle Antipater? Was the Arabian campaign an escape to show that he was still the man without proving it? It almost screams of a deep seated insecurity. He seemed to be avoiding the issues, by escaping into campaigning. The big picture still affords him the luxury of at least being able to say he was just expanding the empire, through Arabia, Sicily, Italy, Carthage, Spain, et al forever, never intending to return home. Perhaps, just waiting till the old rope keeled over from old age before venturing within range. Maybe it wasn't fear of Antipater, but the dread of having to remove him. Antipater, in my mind, held a different relationship with Alexander than Parmenion. He was his acting conscience when the 16 year old Alexander provided regency responsibilities for Philip. Surely, he was there first and foremost with Olympias for the ascension, before Parmenion could be roped in. He was important in Alexander's life, and this made it probably a difficult decision. Of course, the web of intrigue that Alexander would have been faced with in Macedon made it a dangerous endeavor. As Antipater was simply too well entrenched for Alexander to risk the return. later Nicator