Alexander's sweet odour
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Alexander's sweet odour
"...Aristoxenus in his Memoirs tells us that a most agreable odour exhaled from his skin, and that his breath and body all over was so fragrant as to perfume the clothes which he wore next him; the cause of which might probably be the hot and adust temperament of his body... (Plut.)..."So, I wonder if this is some "natural phenomenon" or his mother's essential oils have some connection with his sweet body odour. Regards, Poliksena
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Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Hi there,It is amaizing to find this FACT !!!!! What a wonderfull world, what a wonderfull people, friends!...It is not if this is true, but more, this is also present in nowdays with some persons,... person...hearing somone else (more than one person in different time and no connections...), telling him that his body is smeeling like some esoteric scent comming from his body that is nothing to do with parfumes, it was said to be like mix of cammomille/ cimnamon !?, somthing with no description like describing pure cammomile or simular..., even person was with sweat and for himself he was "smealing" sweat, but no so intense!...It is interesting that most ramains of devine persons, saints, has simular phenomena, smelling with very pleasent scent, and even more,from some there are liquids comming out, said to be curible. These liquid is known as MIRO/MIRHO/MYRHO, or simular, (I do not know exactly how is to spell or pronaunce this word,maybe I did not expect such entry and there is no time for speeling checks, but this is widly known, spetially within religions), and priests are using somekind of this oily liquid with some herbs/flowers in it, to conduct some religious ceremonies, christening at birth, or with death people... , before burial. This name is MIR, MIRO, MIRH/MYRH, so it could mean that person is founding MIR-PEACE, (in Makedonian MIR=PEACE),... So yes, devine persons, apparently, while alive or/and after their earthly life has this characteristic, and that is why religions and beliefs systems all around the world are so important, becouse of so many unexplained phenomena, but witnessed by thousands... Passivity from science are making these phenomena mysterious, ready for misinterpratation and manipulation by many, however we are on right path to change even that- the new is born, ... is comming!...With kind regards The Light 7000
Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Hi,
We had a discussion about this a while ago in connection with beards. You might be able to find it in the archives. As far as I can remember it was - more or less- agreed that Alexander rejected wearing a beard in the manner of Philip and the older members of the court as a deliberate bid to be different. The sweet-smelling body odour was linked to this desire and as a result of wanting to be clean he washed more than a lot of his contemporaries and used scented oils.
The sweet smell could also be linked to his taking part in a lot of religious ceremonies. The oils used would tend to linger on the skin afterwards I should imagine.
Cheers,
Kate
We had a discussion about this a while ago in connection with beards. You might be able to find it in the archives. As far as I can remember it was - more or less- agreed that Alexander rejected wearing a beard in the manner of Philip and the older members of the court as a deliberate bid to be different. The sweet-smelling body odour was linked to this desire and as a result of wanting to be clean he washed more than a lot of his contemporaries and used scented oils.
The sweet smell could also be linked to his taking part in a lot of religious ceremonies. The oils used would tend to linger on the skin afterwards I should imagine.
Cheers,
Kate
Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Dear Kate,... With all respect to yours comments and yours recent talks on this issue, with the others, (I am new and I am not aware of it), but even than/ now
this reply, and all reply's from "recently", while I am "arround", are not about agreement with friends, nor mutual "pact" on some of the issues, but they are for real, about real world and real people's, real hapennings, not story's but real lifes now and long long time ago, YESTERDAY! So they were for real, and reality bites, that is why somone "here" is reacting as is reacting, for real! Civilisations were/are for/from real people, and Alexander, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed..., were for real! Nobody is going to make jokes after more than 2000 y. and paint them with various colours like somone want, no, because they were for real...!... By the way I was not wearing beard at times, nor parfume, nor aromatic oils..., somehow it was for real..., real world, real people, real hapenings......If today humans, most of them, can not detect ultra/infra sounds/colours, that not means they are not around us, that means that most of us can not detect them on this intelectual/spiritual level of/and counsciousness. Most of the animals, both domestic and the others, are quided by those invisible "phenomena" and they are leading LIGHT for their survival... Maybe on some other level of spiritual/intelectual state of mind body and soul, humans would be able to understund them and live by them, making progress and living in harmony with everything on this beutifull planet Earth, including themselfs...With all my Love Truth and light
The light 7000
this reply, and all reply's from "recently", while I am "arround", are not about agreement with friends, nor mutual "pact" on some of the issues, but they are for real, about real world and real people's, real hapennings, not story's but real lifes now and long long time ago, YESTERDAY! So they were for real, and reality bites, that is why somone "here" is reacting as is reacting, for real! Civilisations were/are for/from real people, and Alexander, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed..., were for real! Nobody is going to make jokes after more than 2000 y. and paint them with various colours like somone want, no, because they were for real...!... By the way I was not wearing beard at times, nor parfume, nor aromatic oils..., somehow it was for real..., real world, real people, real hapenings......If today humans, most of them, can not detect ultra/infra sounds/colours, that not means they are not around us, that means that most of us can not detect them on this intelectual/spiritual level of/and counsciousness. Most of the animals, both domestic and the others, are quided by those invisible "phenomena" and they are leading LIGHT for their survival... Maybe on some other level of spiritual/intelectual state of mind body and soul, humans would be able to understund them and live by them, making progress and living in harmony with everything on this beutifull planet Earth, including themselfs...With all my Love Truth and light
The light 7000
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Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Hi Vasko,Really fascinating! I have never ever met anyone with this odour before but I would really want to. Maybe some day. But, have you ever met somebody divine - with this phenomenon? And can you please tell me more about this type of experience? Thanks, Poliksena
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Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Hi Poli,I've been told that my breath smells like mint toothpaste (can't imagine why?) and my body like a fine cologne...particularly right after I take a nice hot shower, shave, brush my teeth, and douse myself with cheap after-shave. There might be a connection there, but I tend to think it's just because of my heavenly constitution.
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Thus, rain sodden and soaked, under darkness cloaked,
Alexander began, his grand plan, invoked...
The Epic of Alexander
Thus, rain sodden and soaked, under darkness cloaked,
Alexander began, his grand plan, invoked...
The Epic of Alexander
Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Hello Vasko,I'm pleased that you have finally taken Alexander as your saviour, and prophet. He is a god, and you should be sure to treat him that way!Have a nice day...Nicator
Later Nicator
Thus, rain sodden and soaked, under darkness cloaked,
Alexander began, his grand plan, invoked...
The Epic of Alexander
Thus, rain sodden and soaked, under darkness cloaked,
Alexander began, his grand plan, invoked...
The Epic of Alexander
Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Dear Poli,...The statment about your question is written as a fact... How come, and why, I "do not know", but is written, and apparently is written with/by purpose and some facts... Let's not discuse it further but live it as it is for other times and other persons...On the other hand re: your question, you already have an answer from a person, but he did not mention what kind of after shave he is using, maybe Alexander was alefgic so some of it's ingrediens, so he missed the aftershave...,Scientificlly speaking, those phenomena are widly recognized and withessed by thousands arround the world, regardless of their ethnicity, beliefs etc. (I never met person who is directly very arrogant re: these issues, even atheists, like the person responding to your comment!). These phenomena, FROM "RECENTLY", because of pasivity from science, are being investigated by the religions, spetially by Cathilics i.e. Jesuits, with strictly scientific methods. This order, and most of priests, have scientific bacground, doctors, Ph.D's, etc., and are working with science hand in hand, just to avoid speculations and false statments which could be disregard as false, and/or fabrications after period of time. For eg., in their reserach they use various electroencephalograms to messure brain waves in some state of mind while some phenomena is happening, and also double blind experiments, and more, they are using various techincs for analysing some liquids, oudors etc., to make some official statment re: phenomena, with no rush! So, more and more of these phenomena is somhow standardised as true, but with no scientific knowledge and proof how they are happening. (Doing the reserch one must be able to repeat it in labaratory, but no one can understund and repeat same impuls for. eg. of love in the experiment. Basic explanation for these phenomena are discussed in my 1 but mainly in 2-nd book, mainly from subatomic/quantum physics!). After period of time, now it seems that widder public is very much interesded in these phenomena, and this interest is relflected in movie industry. This is initiative for some Universities around the world incl. Cambridge, to start with their own investigation, firstly in the field of healing (bioenergy therapy/touch therapy..), and also with remote viewrs. These investigations were secrets of former KGB and CIA, so now it is very well known that these phenomena not only existed, but somone is using them with purpose! ... So, if there is n
Re: Alexander's sweet odour-cont.
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After period of time, now it seems that widder public is very much interesded in these phenomena, and this interest is relflected in movie industry. This is initiative for some universities around the world incl. Cambridge, to start with their own investigation, firstly in the field of healing (bioenergy therapy/touch therapy..), and also with remote viewrs. These investigations were secrets of former KGB and CIA, so now it is very well known that these phenomena not only existed, but somone is using them with purpose! ... So, if there is no explanation about somthing at this stage, that does not mean that "somthing" is not there, but it means that humans are not ready for scientific proof of all of them, (some of them are standard practices). With strong quantum/electromagnetic field one can made something invisible to be visible, and this is on the way, so one can talk about soul as a bioenergetic/biocholografic field of persons, and go even deeper, to search and learn about it, ...
So what this have to do with Alexander and few others like him!? Many things, but mainly it will explain his divinity, it will initiate further reserch of His Noble Being and prove it, becouse if ther was no such phenomena hapenning, than it is almost imposoble to do all he ' ve done for mankind!
Her was not just warior, he was inteligent educated man with analithical aproach towards things, as was teached by Aristotel, and his work is progressive even today. With that kind of aproach, he made standardisation of science to become reality. As we are aware, Alexander was sending samples of flora and fauna, and all others info.'s., to Aristotle from different parts of the world, and his teacher use to investigate by observing/observation, description..., and than to standardise all this info in what spouse to be moder science, and that is absolutlely in no way conservatism, but progresive aproach towards everything including phylosophy and religion. Again, Alexander was able to plan exactly his acctivities and his mission was not only war and conquare, but he was leading teams of scietists, ingeeniers, ..., whole infrastructure for countinuus "work" of all his army, cooks, horseman's... He knew exactly whre to go, what kind of action to take, when and how... His impulsivness was maybe to prevent one not to make "damage" to all that, sympli becouse the other person was not aware of his vision... That is why, he is in fact, bulding and creating universal brotherhood of
After period of time, now it seems that widder public is very much interesded in these phenomena, and this interest is relflected in movie industry. This is initiative for some universities around the world incl. Cambridge, to start with their own investigation, firstly in the field of healing (bioenergy therapy/touch therapy..), and also with remote viewrs. These investigations were secrets of former KGB and CIA, so now it is very well known that these phenomena not only existed, but somone is using them with purpose! ... So, if there is no explanation about somthing at this stage, that does not mean that "somthing" is not there, but it means that humans are not ready for scientific proof of all of them, (some of them are standard practices). With strong quantum/electromagnetic field one can made something invisible to be visible, and this is on the way, so one can talk about soul as a bioenergetic/biocholografic field of persons, and go even deeper, to search and learn about it, ...
So what this have to do with Alexander and few others like him!? Many things, but mainly it will explain his divinity, it will initiate further reserch of His Noble Being and prove it, becouse if ther was no such phenomena hapenning, than it is almost imposoble to do all he ' ve done for mankind!
Her was not just warior, he was inteligent educated man with analithical aproach towards things, as was teached by Aristotel, and his work is progressive even today. With that kind of aproach, he made standardisation of science to become reality. As we are aware, Alexander was sending samples of flora and fauna, and all others info.'s., to Aristotle from different parts of the world, and his teacher use to investigate by observing/observation, description..., and than to standardise all this info in what spouse to be moder science, and that is absolutlely in no way conservatism, but progresive aproach towards everything including phylosophy and religion. Again, Alexander was able to plan exactly his acctivities and his mission was not only war and conquare, but he was leading teams of scietists, ingeeniers, ..., whole infrastructure for countinuus "work" of all his army, cooks, horseman's... He knew exactly whre to go, what kind of action to take, when and how... His impulsivness was maybe to prevent one not to make "damage" to all that, sympli becouse the other person was not aware of his vision... That is why, he is in fact, bulding and creating universal brotherhood of
Re: Alexander's sweet odour-cont.
cont.
So what this have to do with Alexander and few others like him!? Many things, but mainly it will explain his divinity, it will initiate further reserch of His Noble Being and prove it, becouse if ther was no such phenomena hapenning, than it is almost imposoble to do all he ' ve done for mankind!
Her was not just warior, he was inteligent educated man with analithical aproach towards things, as was teached by Aristotel, and his work is progressive even today. With that kind of aproach, he made standardisation of science to become reality. As we are aware, Alexander was sending samples of flora and fauna, and all others info.'s., to Aristotle from different parts of the world, and his teacher use to investigate by observing/observation, description..., and than to standardise all this info in what spouse to be moder science, and that is absolutlely in no way conservatism, but progresive aproach towards everything including phylosophy and religion. Again, Alexander was able to plan exactly his acctivities and his mission was not only war and conquare, but he was leading teams of scietists, ingeeniers, ..., whole infrastructure for countinuus "work" of all his army, cooks, horseman's... He knew exactly whre to go, what kind of action to take, when and how... His impulsivness was maybe to prevent one not to make "damage" to all that, sympli becouse the other person was not aware of his vision... That is why, he is in fact, bulding and creating universal brotherhood of man, universal world people society, and Himself being first as equal among all- CITIZEN OF THE WORLD, ...
and this is comming as reality now...!MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH FOR EVER
WITH ALL MY LOVE TRUTH AND LIGHT- THE LIGHT 7000
So what this have to do with Alexander and few others like him!? Many things, but mainly it will explain his divinity, it will initiate further reserch of His Noble Being and prove it, becouse if ther was no such phenomena hapenning, than it is almost imposoble to do all he ' ve done for mankind!
Her was not just warior, he was inteligent educated man with analithical aproach towards things, as was teached by Aristotel, and his work is progressive even today. With that kind of aproach, he made standardisation of science to become reality. As we are aware, Alexander was sending samples of flora and fauna, and all others info.'s., to Aristotle from different parts of the world, and his teacher use to investigate by observing/observation, description..., and than to standardise all this info in what spouse to be moder science, and that is absolutlely in no way conservatism, but progresive aproach towards everything including phylosophy and religion. Again, Alexander was able to plan exactly his acctivities and his mission was not only war and conquare, but he was leading teams of scietists, ingeeniers, ..., whole infrastructure for countinuus "work" of all his army, cooks, horseman's... He knew exactly whre to go, what kind of action to take, when and how... His impulsivness was maybe to prevent one not to make "damage" to all that, sympli becouse the other person was not aware of his vision... That is why, he is in fact, bulding and creating universal brotherhood of man, universal world people society, and Himself being first as equal among all- CITIZEN OF THE WORLD, ...
and this is comming as reality now...!MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH FOR EVER
WITH ALL MY LOVE TRUTH AND LIGHT- THE LIGHT 7000
Re: Alexander's sweet odour
Hello,Yes, Nicator, you really have got me thinking- I mean about the mint toothpaste smell and all...LOL:Dean.
Re: Alexander's sweet odour-cont.
...in Alexander's name, AMEN!
Later Nicator
Thus, rain sodden and soaked, under darkness cloaked,
Alexander began, his grand plan, invoked...
The Epic of Alexander
Thus, rain sodden and soaked, under darkness cloaked,
Alexander began, his grand plan, invoked...
The Epic of Alexander
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Re: Alexander's sweet odour-cont.
Hi Vasko,Thanks for your reply, but I would like to refer to this part of your message: ".....His impulsivness was maybe to prevent one not to make "damage" to all that, simply because the other person was not aware of his vision... That is why, he is in fact, bulding and creating universal brotherhood of man, universal world people society, and Himself being first as equal among all- CITIZEN OF THE WORLD, ... and this is comming as reality now...!..."First, he didn't act as "equal" to the others. He wanted to be something more, a god... that's why he introduced "proskynesis". He wanted to show his "supreme" status and by this act, to stress the inferiority of the others. The Macedonians were disregarded. So, the conclusion is that Alexander imposed his own divinity (while alive) upon his own people. And what about his "impulsivness" or his furious temperament? If he was really a god, he should have behaved as one. The negative side of his character (there was one post named "Negative Portrait of Alexander... you can search for it) showed that he was all human. My point is that his aim was to achieve his personal dream: to be a King of the kings... to be the best, to surpass his heroes (Achilles and Heracles) and to surpass his father... but, what about the thousands and thousands graves of Macedonian solders... what about the thousands and thousands of their opponents... what about an innocent people.... and what about their own dreams??? The dreams of all these men, women and even children were disregarded. The reality was that his personal dream became their worst nightmare.Let us not idealize Alexander the Great. We should love him for what he really was.Regards, Poliksena
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Re: Alexander's sweet odour-cont.2
and more ... Alexander was far from the idea of an ideal king. He put the lives of his own people and the security of his own kingdom into great danger. And he disregarded the importance of "keeping" his kingdom after his death. He disregarded his prime "directive" for PERSONAL REASONS. Yes, he is GREAT but, how great is his kingdom??? Macedonia needed a king, his people needed a king ... but, he was not there. And he left nothing/ nobody to take care of his kingdom. Actually, his kingdom existed only for himself, only for his glory. And when you look at ATG from this perspective, than was all this wastage of humal lives, all this damage of other peoples lands, institutions, homes, the discontinuation of an Argead dynasty, the non-security of Macedonia and its future and at last....the conquering of Macedonia worth it? For him yes... but speaking for the humanity as whole???Regards
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