Reincarnation of Alexander the Great

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I have read on two books about Alexander's wish to return to see all the good will around him.This message is intended for Marcus who asked me if I thought I had just been a medium or if I believe in reincarnation.For the purposes and intents of this group, I will say that I am open minded, and unafraid now that I have experienced an inbody experience in dream method of sleep and awakening to realize what I had been doing.I think anybody with good sense is somewhat afraid of the natural born killer instincts of Alexander.For understanding the psychology of self and the ability to spoof one's self, it is best to stick to anonymity when claiming the soul of rich and famous people, especially kings.But I am not afraid to share my stories and experiences for the serious minded who really are wanting to know all that they can. Like Irina said about Alexander, he had a thirst for knowledge, and even an Alexander today would thirst for the truth.So, yes, I am aware of how Plutarch opened my eyes to when Alexander calls Hephaestion nobody just as Louis XIV did the same to his son, the Duc du Maine, and unfortunately for me in this lifetime I did the same to my own mother, but heard it echo back from All in the Family with Edith and Archie Bunker. Let's just keep it all in good fun so we can all enjoy life's strange coincidences!
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Hi Jan,Flattered though I am, I think you must have mixed me up with John.Still, it doesn't make your posts any less interesting. Now, I'm a sceptic, but remain open-minded (I had a *very* interesting energy reading from a medium in Amsterdam, once... but that's another story), but it's always interesting to read of other people's experiences - I'd love to have proof that will change my mind, or not, as the case may be.All the bestMarcus
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The proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say. I agree fundamentally with you, and as skeptical as I am about charlatans and frauds, I am a doubting Thomas also and must see for myself. I loved Paul Doherty's line of Achilles has come again, and this visit to the library today has brought me the book Gods and Heroes by Gustav Schwab in which I learned something about Achilles. Achilles is who has convinced me about Alexander. The Greeks are fascinating to me now. To think I began my teaching career teaching Greek literature at Bay City Handy is equally as peculiar to me now as anything can be. My teaching companion is a man by the name of Huff. Most people thought that Madonna is an expensive Italian imitation of Marilyn Monroe. (I thought she was mocking me.)The gap in the teeth and Bay City, not baby city. a typo I just learned. Some people like Madonna...At any rate, the two horned devil of Alexander makes me appreciate the two front teeth now that I have learned all of this so late in my life. I wonder why the Los Angeles Rams didn't use Bucephalus as a mascot as the USC Trojans use Traveler. It is all starting to make a lot of sense to me now.JanAnyway,
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Hi JanetI was intrigued by your mentioning that Alex called Hephaistion "nobody". When did it happen?
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Alexander actually said that Hephaistion would be a nobody without his, Alexander's favour, during a public row after Hephaistion and Craterus had quarrelled. It was said in the heat of anger, and so does not of course reflect what Alexander actually thought -but I wonder if it does indicate a possible cause of antagonism amongst the generals that some, like Hephaistion, did not come from the Macedonian landed gentry or aristocracy. I know that Jeanne has speculated that Hephaistion's family were Athenian, and that he was maybe first-generation macedonian , but I can't remeber if this is based on fact or guesswork. others of course were non-Macedonian - Eumenes, Nearchos. It maybe that there was an undercurrent of resentment that the sons of the older nobility - Philotas, Cassander, had been pushed aside by people chosen for their merit. This may be reading too much into a few words.RegardsSusan
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Hi Susan,Hephaistion was awarded Athenian citizenship, which might explain the hypothesis that he was Athenian by birth.Sorry, gotta dash...Marcus (in a blazing hurry)
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Well, when you find the time to, plz will you explain me this 'hephaistion got athenian citizenship'? I'm obliged.
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Hi Susa,Back now! (phew, what a day)Apparently, there is an inscription somewhere that refers to Hephaistion's Athenian citizenship. The problem is, I can't remember where I read about it, but I seem to recall that it was used as an argument for Hephaistion probably being a bit handy as a diplomat, if the Athenians were prepared to honour him in this way.Which, of course, actually suggests that he wasn't Athenian, because an inscription carved to commemmorate his being awarded citizenship would only have been done if he wasn't an Athenian citizen to begin with... if you see what I mean...All the bestMarcusPS: Sorry, I'm having the most incredibly hectic time at work at the moment (yes, Susan, for once!).
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Hello Marcus:I believe the inscription you refer too was made to Amyntor, which Jeanne Reames-Zimmerman thinks may have been Heph's father due to the rarity of the name, hence the possible Athenian connection.Of course this is off the top of my head as I don't have my books with me.Regards,Tre
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Hi Tre,That might be the case - Amyntor rather than Hephaistion himself. I was sure it was Hephaistion, but I'll happily concede I'm wrong if we can get to the bottom of it!That's always the problem when you don't have your books handy, isn't it?All the bestMarcus
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As I recall, I read it in Plutarch's Lives. I will check to see when it happened.
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