Alexander died in Ecbatana

[Cyrus]

People of Hamedan (Ecbatana) believe that Alexander died in their city and there is an ancient tomb near the Hagmatana hill in Ecbatana which is called the Tomb of Alexander for a long time, I think it is possible, we know that Alexander died in the early summer and the summer capital of the Persian empire was Ecbatana, it seems to be strange that Alexander who has conquered a vast empire, stays in a warm city in the summer, even the Babylonian kings left Babylon to the northern cities in this season.

[abm]

Hi Cyrus,such a claim would require that we ignore all available evidence on the last months of Alexander's life and on his burial place which clearly was in Egypt.
Have you seen Andrew Chugg's website http://www.alexanderstomb.com/ yet? There you will find more on this.regards,
abm

[Cyrus]

It can be discussed, I have also posted it here: http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_p ... =3382&PN=1

[marcus]

Hi Alexander,I would say, also, that as Alexander was in the middle of planning his invasion of Arabia, it makes a lot of sense that he would have moved down to Babylon at that time.ATBMarcus

[Taphoi]

Unfortunately, it is not possible that this is Alexander the Great. There are too many independent accounts which contradict it and nothing to corroborate it.Nevertheless, the tomb may well be the tomb of an Alexander. There are enormous numbers of historically important Alexanders both before and after ATG. The oldest we know of may be Paris of Troy, though he is legendary of course.Just as a warning to Pothosians, here are some of the most important other Alexanders (but there are many more): Alexanders I, II and IV of Macedon, Alexander Lyncestis, Alexander of Epiros, two Ptolemaic Pharaohs, Severus Alexander, an early 4th century AD Patriarch of Alexandria, a saint of the Orthodox Christian church (possibly the same person as the Patriarch), a 4th century AD governor of Syria, Alexander Nevsky (whom the Russians sometimes call Alexander the Great, thus confusing even themselves), several Csars of all the Russias etc etcPerhaps Pothos should have a "Pale Imitations" list.Best wishes,Andrew

[Cyrus]

None of those Alexanders lived in Ecbatana.

[Gigi]

HelloMaybe Cirus, it was the fact that actually Hephaestion Died in Egbatana, no? And times, you know, make distortions to things. Like that child game --- a child says one thing, then passes this saying on to other child, and so on. At the end, that thing first said is quite something different!bye!genevi+¿ve

[Cyrus]

Each city could be just the death place one person, yes? Alexander can't die in Ecbatana because his friend has died there! Ecbatana, as the capital of the Persian empire, was one the most important cities of the ancient times, many peoples died in this city and there many tombs such as the tombs of Esther and Mordecai who died many years before alexander, except Hephaestion, we know Parmenio and Bessus were killed in this city too.

[heinrich]

Lane Fox suggests that it was the tomb of Hephaestion, but he is certainly wrong, because Alexander's lover was cremated in Babylon (although, of course, he died in Hamadan after eating a pheasant). The lion is said to have been discovered on a Parthian cemetery, which explains the "Greek" type of lion.HM

[beausefaless]

What's your definition of Alexander's lover? A devotee or a paramour? If you say the later I disagree! Maybe in their young youth their hormones were more than they could bare but you and I will never know for sure.
AF

[Laura Casemier]

Does it matter?Laura

[beausefaless]

Since you asked, yes it does matter not just for myself but for many peoples this very subject has been debated on numerous occasions through out many centuries. Gay people claim Alexander as one of their own as do bisexuals. Oliver Stone tried to exploit this very subject in his movie and still discuses this subject during his interviews and in his hindsight he wishes he hadn't emphasized this very exploitation within his film.
Is this a proper subject in this message thread, I say yes on the basis of all tones of peoples post are subject for debate, that's what we do in this forum along with other forums I might add.
I hope your question was answered to your satisfaction if not, too bad but like it or not, it did get an answer.
Regards, Andrew

[heinrich]

"As a historian, I am not interested in people below their belly button" - Ranke.HM

[xxx]

Alexander was neither 'straight' nor 'gay.' The ancient interpretation of sexual roles was not the same as ours so we need to stop assigning it a modern connotation. It was what role you played, i.e. penetrated or penetrator that mattered, not what sex you slept with. Macedonian homoeroticism was different in a number of ways from the classical Athenian model, i.e. it is mentioned that males of the same age were lovers, and that men with beards were still engaging in the same behavior. Simply one cannot state that Alexander and Hephaistion were not lovers as adults, just that it would be unusual if they were Athenian which they were not. However I would say that Alexander choosing Bagoas as his lover as he elevated Hephaistion's position politically was an acknowlegment that it would not be good for Hephaistion's career if he remained the King's lover in view of his new empire. He was no longer just a Macedonian King and Hephaistion would have to stand on his own merits.As for good history only counting above the waist, well, if I had a dollar for everything that went wrong attributed to thinking with what was below the waist instead of above the neck, I would be quite wealthy and it would certainly be a different world :-)There is no evidence Alexander's death happening anywhere else other than Babylon. And as we all should know from reading the histories, Alexander never let climate interfere with his plans, so there is no good reason to assume he would stay in the summer palace because of the climate. Babylon was his capital and that's where one should have expected to find him.Regards,Tre

[Laura Casemier]

As far as I know, Alexander's policy was not influenced by sexual motives, so we can leave him his privacy, I would say. It would, of course, be different if he had ran into trouble because of a love affair (cf. Bill Clinton).Laura