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[GONI PIRO]

Hi,
I just wanted to know that from tenths of sites that do have information about the life of this great Man this is the site with the poorest information about His origin meaning his parents.
I can not understand why so many people are so afraid of telling the truth as we all know based in the historic facts that the ancient world has provided us. HIS MOTHER (Olympia)was from Epirus or Ilyrian or Albanian in nowadays. The mother of Philip was Iliryan too. I cant understand why do have Macedonians or Greeks have to quarrel for something that barely belongs to them .
For my opinion what is to be said is to be said !
It's not of that great importance but the world must know or realize that from the ancient times has existed a vital people next to Greeks and Macedonians able to provide the world with great names as Alexander , Scanderbeg etc...They were the Pellazges, ILIRIANS ,ARBER, and nowdays ALBANIANS!

[matz]

As far as I know Philip was of Macedonian-Lyncestian origin (Lyncestida is a region around modern Bitola, Macedonia). He even founded a city called Heraclea Lyncestis to stop any Ilyrian intrusions.I don't know much about Albanian history as there is not much widely available, but if you have any good sites please post links.According to Dr. Kaplan Resuli, Albanian historian and linguist, Albanians have settled in the Balkans in the period around 9-10 centuries AD via present-day Romania. According to the same source, modern Albanian language is of Satem type and as the Ilyrian language is of Kentum type, modern Albanian can not be related to Ilyrian (unless there was a change in the substrate of the Albanian language, and apparently there wasn't).

[marcus]

Hi Goni,I imagine that many people will dispute Philip being of Illyrian origin - as far as anyone can tell he was of pure Macedonian origin.However, I think we are well aware that there are many areas where the site is still 'low' on information. As nobody is able to work full time on the site it's true that there's still a lot of work to be done - but there's nothing to stop others from contributing (so long as statements made can stand up to scrutiny).All the bestMarcus

[GONI PIRO]

THANK 'S FOR ANSWERING AT FIRST!
IF YOU KNOW ABOUT LANGUAGES THAN YOU MUST KNOW THAT THE ALBANIAN ,GREEK AND FINISH LANGUAGES ARE THE ONLY ONE'S THAT DO NOT LINK WITH ANY OTHER LANGUAGE OR ENTER IN ANY GROUP OF OTHER LANGUAGES.
I'M SURE THAT THE ECONOMICALL SITUATION OF A COUNTRY PLAYS A GOOD ROLE IN THE WAY THAT THE FACTS COMING FROM THE HISTORY ARE INTERPRETED AND MANIPULATED SO FAR BUT IT'S HISTORY ITSELF THAT SHOWS US SO QUICKLLY THINGS CAN CHANGE! MACEDONIAN NAME ITSELF CAN BE AN EXAMPLE. ALBANIA SO FAR HAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DEFEND WHAT IT REALLY BELONGS TO OUR HISTORY AND TO THIS PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY THINGS HAVE COME UNTIL NOW AND WE ALWAYS HAVE SUFFERD LONG WARS AND INVADERS AND NOW WE ARE BEGINING TO BREATH AGAIN LITTLE BY LITTLE.
ALBANIA IN ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN MENTIONED FOR GREAT HOSPITALLITY , LOYALLTY AND BRAVELY WHICH ARE THIS COUNTRY GREATEST VIRTUES. I THINK THAT THIS COUNTRY DOESN'T DEMAND THE HONNOURS THAT HIS SONS HAVE WON UNDER FOREIGN FLAGS BUT AT LEAST WE DESERVE RESPECT AS ONE OF THE OLDERS IN THIS BIG HOUSE CALLED EUROPE. PRETTY RARE IN NOWDAYS, DON'T YOU THINK.
http://www.geocities.com/spiritofalbania/ilyrians.htm

[Gemmini]

I think, Agron Piro, you have crossed the borders in wich this discussion is running. We are not talking about the politics of nowdays but about the life of Alexander and everything related to him.
I supose you are from albania and you wish that the world accepts that one of the greatest men in history was halfways from your race. As Matz has mentioned, albanians came to the nowdays albania some 1200 years after alexander, before there lived the ilyrians, so his mother could not been an albanian, cause at the time there where no albanians.
Anyway...this forum is really great and I dont want that it goes the wrong way.We are trying to stay by the facts and not our wishes.Greetings, Jacob

[ruthaki]

I believe that Olympias (named formerly"Myrto") was
born down around Arta, which was still Epirus in those days but far away from Illyria.

[marcus]

Hi Ruth,Of course you're right - not only was Philip not Illyrian, but Olympias wasn't either!Marcus

[marcus]

Hi Ruth,Of course you're right - not only was Philip not Illyrian, but Olympias wasn't either!Marcus

[GONI PIRO]

Hi Matz its me again ! Sorry for writting sth that doesn't matter the purpose of this site but i wanted you to know that mister Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich to whom you refer can not be a source of information for anyone who really wants to know sth about the Albanians.
I could write you a lot but you wouldn't understand why this mister has chosen this way of writting against all the other historians Albanians and others.I wouldn`t believe him that much.Look at his surname , he changed it hisself, from an Albanian one , into a serbian one.What can u do.Everybody is free do to what he wants !
I would suggest you to read Arthur Weigall's book about the life and doings of ALEXANDER. best regards PIRO

[GONI PIRO]

Ruth , thanks for writting first , as for you information in that land that is still called Epirus most of the people still talk in Albanian language althoug they do live inside the Greek borders and have Greek passports .
This is a fact that you can find it in many historic books but if you want to be sure you can go there and see it yourself. That may change a little bit your opinion .Jacobs and Marchus too.
History is not matter of wishes . It belongs to the facts to decide what we have to believe and we are free to chose our source of information and believe it or not .

[Gemmini]

Agron...since we are not talking about alexander anymore...what do you want to say? Cause I do have the feeling that you have misanderstood a little the facts we are trying to explain...you are mixing up the present with the past but it is imposible to compare. The albanians have nothing to do with the Ilyrians beside the fact that thay ocupie the same teritory.No either has Philipe and Olympia nothing to do with the Ilyrians. I hope it is more clear now.Greetings, Jakob

[GONI PIRO]

Jacob,As I said you are free to believe what you want as long as it doesn't harm you or anybody else around you, but it's the biggest mistake to say that Ilyrians have nothing to do with Albanians because we speak the same language too and I think that's enough to make the link. In the whole world I can not gather more than ten people that think as you do but of course you could get thousands of them that would wish what you think you know was true!
WE HAVE WELCOMED YOU ALL , DO NOT FORGET !

[beausefaless]

What we have here is a failure to communicate!(Struthers Martin in Cool Hand Luke). So much for The Greek/Macedonian debate! Where is Dr. V when you need him!

[GONI PIRO]

What we have here is a failure to communicate!
guns n' roses
civil war
"use your ILLUSION II"

[marcus]

You're so right, Andrew - I was thinking exactly the same thing!Marcus