Coinage of Alexander and Philip
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Coinage of Alexander and Philip
Greetings Marcus and to all,
I'm trying to make a list of all or most of the mints, hoping with a little back ground for at least some because they were many. I'll give it the old college try.
If anyone else has info and would like to contribute, Nick, Susan, Lind Ann, Tre(medallions), Sikander, Yannis, Jona, Karl, Smity, and *whoever* else, for these folks shown interest in the past, I'll appreciate the comradeship and all will be credited.
This project will not be easy because thousands (maybe million) of these coins (gold, silver, and bronze still exist besides all the books, plates, web sites, and supplements to museum showings, amazing, isn't it?
My email is easy, when you post just click on the (blue beausefaless).
Regards, Andrew
I'm trying to make a list of all or most of the mints, hoping with a little back ground for at least some because they were many. I'll give it the old college try.
If anyone else has info and would like to contribute, Nick, Susan, Lind Ann, Tre(medallions), Sikander, Yannis, Jona, Karl, Smity, and *whoever* else, for these folks shown interest in the past, I'll appreciate the comradeship and all will be credited.
This project will not be easy because thousands (maybe million) of these coins (gold, silver, and bronze still exist besides all the books, plates, web sites, and supplements to museum showings, amazing, isn't it?
My email is easy, when you post just click on the (blue beausefaless).
Regards, Andrew
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Hi Andrew,Do you know G. LE RIDER, Alexandre le Grand. Monnaie, finances et politique (Histoires), Paris 2003? It's a very interesting book, discussing Alexander's coinage in all parts of the empire.regards,abm
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Hopefully this article can be submitted to Nick W. for the home page of this # 1 forum through out our world including any lost ones in South America. (ha)
Maybe we can format a web page link to show our collections. I found a little time since my horse trading if finished for this part of the season. Thanks
Andrew
PS Nick & Sikander, did you get the sixteen photos on the ancient horse?
Maybe we can format a web page link to show our collections. I found a little time since my horse trading if finished for this part of the season. Thanks
Andrew
PS Nick & Sikander, did you get the sixteen photos on the ancient horse?
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Well, Andrew, I'm certainly interested in the subject, but hardly knowledgeable enough to be able to offer any assistance. In fact, I look to you as our Pothosian *authority* on numismatics. :-)Would you consider a more personal approach rather than just a listing of all the mints with a little background on each? I'd love to know things such as did the horns of Ammon image supersede the head of Heracles, or was this related to place of origin? Which coins are still to be found in greater numbers today and why? What other images were found on the coins of the Successors and are they still be related to Alexander, such as the horse on coins of Seleucus I? And of course there's the elephant medallions which deserve a mention under that topic, along with the other medallions. Are there instantly recognizable details on certain coins that can identify the originating mint and date of issue, and what are they? A more introductary, though still comprehensive coverage to educate and entertain the layman rather than an article specifically directed towards the collector - that's what I'd like to see, and I've never been aware of the existence of such an article. Of course, I may be alone in wanting something like this!
For example, I've always intended to ask you in an appropriate thread if the coinage from Rhodes is extremely rare or not. I was looking at one of these coins in the catalogue from the old Alexander exhibition and it is easy to tell that the full-face image of Helios is Alexander. I particularly like this image, but I'm guessing that these coins are not too much in evidence today. And - an aside here - the writer in the catalogue confidently states that "As elsewhere when Helios was represented in Hellenistic art, the features of the patron god of the island of Rhodes were based on those of Alexander the Great." I take that to mean that any archaeological Hellenistic image of Helios - from any place of origin - *always* resembles Alexander! Interesting.In the end, whatever approach you decide to take, I'll be looking forward to reading your article :-)Best regards,Linda Ann

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Re: Coinage of Alexander and Philip
Greetings Linda Ann,
What you suggested are great guide lines!(sounds like Capt. Jack Sparrow, Elizabeth Swann, and Barbossa discussing the code) I was thinking of a description along with the coins and your suggestions will blend nicely, thanks much!
Jona gave me permission to use an accurate picture of one of the elephant coins, he owns the copyright, It's the coin that's in Copenhagen, not the London one. The man has a hart as big as a melon! Personally, I feel he has so much history to offer and we all have benefited immensely! I can never thank you enough Jona.
Look up 'Coins of Rhodes on Goggle: go to Rhodes - Ancient Greek Coinage - ildWinds.com click on the Click here for the Rhodes page with thumbnail images. there are numerous coins from Rhodes. And Masterpieces from Ancient Greece. As for the front facial coins of Rhodes they were an after thought from the Amphipolis mint from Greece up till the coinage of Philip but after the death of ATG they are no doubt debatable, Helios/Alexander.
I thank you, Marcus and Alexander Meeus for your support and help. I've been trying to make contact with a couple of the 'big kahunas' (Sikander and Nick W.) but no response. They're busy or I could be getting the "I stuck my foot in my big mouth cold shoulder treatment?" If it's the later, well, I just won't be able to sleep at nights, I mean, what's a poor ole boy to do? I know, I'll have another glass of wine and not worry.
I'd love to know things such as did the horns of Ammon image supersede the head of Heracles, answer is no, or was this related to place of origin? Yes
All the best,
Andrew
What you suggested are great guide lines!(sounds like Capt. Jack Sparrow, Elizabeth Swann, and Barbossa discussing the code) I was thinking of a description along with the coins and your suggestions will blend nicely, thanks much!
Jona gave me permission to use an accurate picture of one of the elephant coins, he owns the copyright, It's the coin that's in Copenhagen, not the London one. The man has a hart as big as a melon! Personally, I feel he has so much history to offer and we all have benefited immensely! I can never thank you enough Jona.
Look up 'Coins of Rhodes on Goggle: go to Rhodes - Ancient Greek Coinage - ildWinds.com click on the Click here for the Rhodes page with thumbnail images. there are numerous coins from Rhodes. And Masterpieces from Ancient Greece. As for the front facial coins of Rhodes they were an after thought from the Amphipolis mint from Greece up till the coinage of Philip but after the death of ATG they are no doubt debatable, Helios/Alexander.
I thank you, Marcus and Alexander Meeus for your support and help. I've been trying to make contact with a couple of the 'big kahunas' (Sikander and Nick W.) but no response. They're busy or I could be getting the "I stuck my foot in my big mouth cold shoulder treatment?" If it's the later, well, I just won't be able to sleep at nights, I mean, what's a poor ole boy to do? I know, I'll have another glass of wine and not worry.
I'd love to know things such as did the horns of Ammon image supersede the head of Heracles, answer is no, or was this related to place of origin? Yes
All the best,
Andrew
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Hi Andrew,That made me laugh! Don't worry, it's not that Nick of Sikander are mad at you for any reason - it's just that they're very busy. I've felt unloved in the past when I've contacted Nick, but he always got back to me eventually.Like Linda Ann, I sort of see you as the numismatic expert - I certainly know very little about it. But if there's anything I can help with I'll be pleased to.I must get a photo of my tetradrachm over to you at some point, as we discussed ages ago. I'd be very interested to know if it really is a lifetime issue (as I was originally told it was) or a post-323 issue. I might be able to do that in a couple of weeks (the coin is in another part of the country at the moment).CheersMarcus
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Guys hailRespect I really feel touched deep down with the affection and comradeship you all have,, I sit on the fence and wheep.Only jOKING
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Hi Andrew,I don't know how far you want to go with the posthumous issues, but there is an interesting discussion of the Antigonid alexander issues at Tyre by Wheatley in "The Mint at Tyre after the Battle of Ipsus", in Crossroads of History. The Age of Alexander, ed. W. Heckel & L.A. Tritle (Claremont, CA; Regina Books 2003), 183-216.
He also wrote in interesting article on the chronology of the coins from Sidon and Ake at the time of the battle of Gaza: "The Year 22 Tetradrachms of Sidon and the Date of the Battle of Gaza" Zeitschrift f++r Papyrologie und Epigraphik 144 (2003), 268-276.
I'm not really a specialist in numismatics but i'm always prepared to provide further help on the coins of the Successors, if you would need so.regards,abm
He also wrote in interesting article on the chronology of the coins from Sidon and Ake at the time of the battle of Gaza: "The Year 22 Tetradrachms of Sidon and the Date of the Battle of Gaza" Zeitschrift f++r Papyrologie und Epigraphik 144 (2003), 268-276.
I'm not really a specialist in numismatics but i'm always prepared to provide further help on the coins of the Successors, if you would need so.regards,abm
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Many thanks Andrew for all the info - I'll be waiting for your article and in the meantime will definitely follow up on the Rhodes link. :-)Best regards,Linda Ann
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