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About Aleksander III, the Macedonian By Mitko B. Panov
translated by Chris M. Purdef GÇ£I think during that time, there wasnGÇÖt a people or a city who didnGÇÖt know the name Alexander. There is no doubt in my mind that GodGÇÖs Will played a role in the existence of Alexander, a man who had no equal. This was spoken by the profacies during AlexanderGÇÖs death and the various views and dreams of the people, the honors given to him by the people up until even the present time, the "monument" that he left, likening himself a "higher being." The profacies, which even now, after all this time, are given in honor of him, and the MACEDONIAN PEOPLE.GÇ¥ These last words spoken by the Greek author Arrian, one of the most influencial resources on the life and work of Alexander, written 500 years after the death of the Macedonian King, most illustrativly witnesses that the historical tradition of Alexander, preserved through the centuries, was directly connected with the Ancient Macedonians GÇô A Fact that was even accepted by Ancient Greeks. Do Modern Greeks think of the same Alexander III (The Macedonian), whose death, according to Diodorus Siculus, was used by the Greek city-states (lead by Athens) for their unification against Macedonia in order to "defend their freedom and relinquish the hold of Macedonian Despotism?!GÇ¥ Do they also regard AlexandersGÇÖ heirs as their own; men such as King Cassander, described by the author Pausanias as "The Great Hater of the Hellenes," or King Antigon I, who established the "greatest tyranny over the Hellenes?!" How about the overbearing mannerisms of the Macedonian King Antigon II, whose election as Commander of the Federation with the Achaian League in 224 BC was dubbed by Plutarch as a man "not fit for the Hellenes" because he was choosen as commander by those "who do not aim at preseraving the blessed Hellenic lineage?" Moreover, do Modern Greeks view the Macedonian King Philip V as Greek, and the damage that "his thrown inflicted upon the Hellenes," even after the appeals that were sent to Philip V to "stop destruction of the Hellenes?!" What about Roman Policy, described by Plutarch, who believed that "The Hellenes should not even think about freedom" as long as Philip V and the Macedonians had control over Halkida, Corinth, and Demetrada, viewed as "shackles of Hellas?" Or should we mention the religious persecution the Macedonians inflicted upon Greeks with destruction of Greek monuments, after the sacrelidge of the

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Moreover, do Modern Greeks view the Macedonian King Philip V as Greek, and the damage that "his thrown inflicted upon the Hellenes," even after the appeals that were sent to Philip V to "stop destruction of the Hellenes?!" What about Roman Policy, described by Plutarch, who believed that "The Hellenes should not even think about freedom" as long as Philip V and the Macedonians had control over Halkida, Corinth, and Demetrada, viewed as "shackles of Hellas?" Or should we mention the religious persecution the Macedonians inflicted upon Greeks with destruction of Greek monuments, after the sacrelidge of the holy place of [Macedonian god] Dion. Or when Roman Emperor Caracalla, who identified with Alexander the Great and because of this, "loved the Macedonians" and placed various Macedonians in high functions namely because of their ethnicity. How about the Roman Emperor Alexander Severus, who went as far as to directly link any person named Alexander or Philip to Macedonian Ethnicity. Let us mention the viewpoint of the Romans, described by Plutarch, where by the end of the 3rd Century, Emperor Maximillian Galerius also identified himself with Alexander the Great and consequently chose the city of Thessaloniki [Solun in Macedonian] as his seat, who during his reign, strictly abided by the traditions of the Ancient Macedonians. If we examine the majority of historical resources, most of which, were written by Greek authors, we begin to understand the desperate attempts by modern Greeks to portray Alexander, Ancient Macedonians, and Macedonian history as their GÇ£own.GÇ¥ It is more than enough to look at the indisputable facts that within these resources, Alexander is identified as a Macedonian, and as King of the Macedonians. Moreover, not one of these resources ever makes reference to Alexander as a Hellene or King of the Greeks. This in itself shows the absurdity of Greek theorist. Namely, Greeks identify with an artifcially constructed history established in the 19th Century established with the formation of the modern Greek State. At that time, with the support of Western Histiography, Greek interests claimed Ancient Macedonian History as their own and simply GÇ£cut and pasteGÇ¥ the terminology of GÇ£HelenicGÇ¥ and GÇ£HellenismGÇ¥ into that history. This fake and unadulterated historical label gained specific noteriety for Greece when they occupied part of Macedonia (Agean Macedonia) during the Balkan Wars. Because of political reasons, those ideas were tabulat

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This fake and unadulterated historical label gained specific noteriety for Greece when they occupied part of Macedonia (Agean Macedonia) during the Balkan Wars. Because of political reasons, those ideas were tabulated in the Former Yugoslavia with the tenacious viewpoint not to review Ancient Macedonian historical texts. Modern Greek GÇ£historyGÇ¥ has existed a fairly long time and even today, select Macedonian authors automatically use the term GÇ£Hellenism,GÇ¥ which doesnGÇÖt prove anything other than the obviously, absurd fasening of the GÇ£Greek CharacterGÇ¥ to the history of Macedonia from the period of Alexander to 31 BC. Moreover, there was also a long period where no one discussed the Roman Period in Macedonian history, especially during the timeframe of the IV and V Centuries, which bares proof of the ongoing existence of the Ancient Macedonians on the territory of Macedonia, and their traditional connection with Alexander. The Publication of the History of the Macedonian People in the year 2000, attemped to shed light on these periods, however unfortunate, remained unnoticed by the Macedonian Public. This is why, Macedonia greatly publicized the movie story of Alexander and the short history of of Macedonia on United States State Department Website. It only proves the great Macedonian apathy and inferiortiy syndrome, reflected through the need for our history to be proliferated from abroad. The noteriety given to Alexander by the Oliver Stone movie, coupled with the recognition of Macedonia by itsGÇÖ constitutional name by the United States, resulted in a panniced reaction by the Greeks, who retorted with harsh criticism to the portrayal of AlexanderGÇÖs sexuality in Oliver StoneGÇÖs movie. These reactions were nothing other than an unnatural attempt by the Greeks to identify themselves as "protectors" of their "own" history. No matter how much modern Greeks try to deny the unncovering of GÇ£theirGÇ¥ historical truth of Alexander the MACEDONIAN, the cannot hide what historical facts and archeological findings uncover today, and what they will uncover in the future. Every nation requires respect and understanding of its historical figures. However, it is very difficult to understand the tendancies of mondern Greeks in holding to views of "their" Alexander at any cost, and claiming historical exclusive rights to Alexander GÇô The same figure that held the Hellenes in contempt and used them in his expansionist plans, the same figure that the Hellenes viewed with

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No matter how much modern Greeks try to deny the unncovering of GÇ£theirGÇ¥ historical truth of Alexander the MACEDONIAN, the cannot hide what historical facts and archeological findings uncover today, and what they will uncover in the future. Every nation requires respect and understanding of its historical figures. However, it is very difficult to understand the tendancies of mondern Greeks in holding to views of "their" Alexander at any cost, and claiming historical exclusive rights to Alexander GÇô The same figure that held the Hellenes in contempt and used them in his expansionist plans, the same figure that the Hellenes viewed with hatred, and feared him because he was a Macedonian! These tendancies can only viewed through the creation of a historical Alexander, albeit a creation only understood by modern Greeks. The author has a PhD in History.

[ancientlibrary]

This forum has an explicit rule against ethnic
polemic, posted at the top of the forum at all
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[a spiropoulos]

what are you taking about tim, the message is on angels
that was reposted due to forums taking only part of url.
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[a spiropoulos]

this is new thread that i promised, thats it for week ,one space. http://www.geocities.com/losalexspirop/ ... t-f.htmlas

[ancientlibrary]

Not your URL post, but the three that followed it.

[alexandruvski]

even if alexander wasnt greek (highly unlikely) he sure isnt the descendent to the people of slavic fyrom today. with a population of half albanian that speak a serbian dialect. modern greeks dont oppose anything. History speaks for itself. it cannot be changed. facts are facts. there are a lot of anti-greeks out there but one i dont understand is the fyromians. (mostly outside of fyrom) greece has done nothing to these people to deserve this anti-greekness. if anything greece should be kicking up a HUGE stink regarding the use of its ancient Macedonian name, symbols and history. jealous wannabe's. regards,alexandruvski

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5 entries found for alexander.
al-+ex-+an-+der also Al-+ex-+an-+der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lg-zndr)
n. A cocktail made with cr+¿me de cacao, sweet cream, and brandy or gin.[From the name Alexander.] Source: The American Heritage-« Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright -¬ 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. alexandern 1: European herb somewhat resembling celery widely naturalized in Britain coastal regions and often cultivated as a potherb [syn: Alexander, Alexanders, black lovage, horse parsley, Smyrnium olusatrum] 2: king of Macedon; conqueror of Greece and Egypt and Persia; founder of Alexandria (356-323 BC) [syn: Alexander, Alexander the Great]Source: WordNet -« 2.0, -¬ 2003 Princeton University Mac-+e-+do-+ni-+a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ms-dn-, -dny)A region of southeast Europe on the Balkan Peninsula roughly coextensive with ancient Macedon and including parts of modern-day Greece, Bulgaria, and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. After the fall of the Alexandrian empire, it was held by Romans, Byzantines, Bulgars, Serbs, and Turks. The present division was largely determined after the Second Balkan War (1913).
Officially The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.. A country of the central Balkan Peninsula. It was a constituent republic of the former Yugoslavia until it declared its independence in 1991. Skopje is the capital and the largest city. Population: 2,142,000.
See Macedon. Source: The American Heritage-« Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright -¬ 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
macedonian 1: landlocked republic on the Balkan Peninsula; achieved independence from Yugoslavia in 1991 [syn: Macedonia] 2: the ancient kingdom of Philip II and Alexander the Great in the southeastern Balkans that is now divided among modern Macedonia and Greece and Bulgaria [syn: Macedon, Macedonia, Makedonija]Source: WordNet -« 2.0, -¬ 2003 Princeton University macedoniain New Testament times, was a Roman province lying north of Greece. It was
governed by a propraetor with the title of proconsul. Paul was summoned by the
vision of the "man of Macedonia" to preach the gospel there (Acts 16:9).
Frequent allusion is made to this event (18:5; 19:21; Rom. 15:26; 2 Cor. 1:16;
11:9; Phil. 4:15). The history of Paul's first journey through Maced

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macedonia
(18:5; 19:21; Rom. 15:26; 2 Cor. 1:16;
11:9; Phil. 4:15). The history of Paul's first journey through Macedonia is
given in detail in Acts 16:10-17:15. At the close of this journey he returned
from Corinth to Syria. He again passed through this country (20:1-6), although
the details of the route are not given. After many years he probably visited it
for a third time (Phil. 2:24; 1 Tim. 1:3). The first convert made by Paul in
Europe was (Acts 16:13-15) Lydia (q.v.), a "seller of purple," residing in
Philippi, the chief city of the eastern division of Macedonia.Source: Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary macedoniaMacedonia, burning; adorationSource: Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary Macedonia
Syllables: Mac-e-do-ni-a
Part of Speech noun
Pronunciation mae sih do ni E
mae sih don yE
Definition 1. since 1992, a Balkan republic bordering Albania and Greece; formerly part of Yugoslavia.

Derived Forms Macedonian, [adj.], n.
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Wordsmyth CollaboratoryDefinition
1. Macedonia [n.] 1. City in Iowa (USA), population 262; zip code 51549. , 2. City in Ohio (USA), population 7509; zip code 44056. , 3. Village in Illinois (USA), population 58; zip code 62860.
2. Macedonian [n.] 1. A native or inhabitant of Macedon. , 2. The Slavic language of modern Macedonia.
3. Macedonian [adj.] Of or relating to Macedonia or its inhabitants; "Macedonian hills."
http://ultralingua.net/Overview of noun macedonia
The noun macedonia has 2 senses (no senses from tagged texts)
1. Macedonia -- (landlocked republic on the Balkan Peninsula; achieved independence from Yugoslavia in 1991)
2. Macedon, Macedonia, Makedonija -- (the ancient kingdom of Philip II and Alexander the Great in the southeastern Balkans that is now divided among modern Macedonia and Greece and Bulgaria) Synonyms/Hypernyms (Ordered by Frequency) of noun macedonia
2 senses of macedonia
Sense 1
Macedonia -- (landlocked republic on the Balkan Peninsula; achieved independence from Yugoslavia in 1991)
Balkan country, Balkan nation, Balkans, Balkan state -- (a country on the Balkan Peninsula)
Sense 2
Macedon, Macedonia, Makedonija -- (the ancient kingdom of Philip II and Alexander the Great in the southeastern Balkans that is now divided among modern Macedonia and Greece and Bulgaria)
geographical area, geographic area, geographical region, geographic region -- (a demarcated area of the Earth) Part Holonyms of noun mace

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necessary due to error postingpage
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to those who post information on treads not related to
post, that fine but make your own topic and post away,
i believe in posting, if one does not click it does not come up, the forums clients be the judge,jury and final say on all.as

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'For the Glory of Greece'Ancient Macedonia: an ancient greek province located in northern greece, that spread greek culture to the known world under the rule of Alexander the Great, lasting for 2 and a half centuries. Alexander spoke greek, believed in greek gods, sacrificed to Greek gods and claimed to be the descendent of Achilles.He built Greek cities and educated the known world in Greek. He also punished the persians for what the had done to Greece 150 years before.fyrom: no association to the ancient macedonians. has a population with half albanian citizensand a language that is Serbian. To this day are yet to provide any evidence in 'Macedonian Slav Language' that they have any association with the ancient Greek King Alexander.please read below: posted a while back by a greek supporter.First... lets get to my own personal bias on the issue... My family descends from the Sar Mountain range, currently found within the country FYROM. I'd like to point out to many of you, that when you say modern Macedonian is really comprised of Bulgarians, you're not exactly correct.Yes, today's "Macedonian" language is Slavic, but there are various dialects. For example, for those of us in the North and Northeast (Tetovo, Skopje and Kumanovo), our language is closer to Serbian, in fact, better to say "Old Serbian". I've discussed this matter with the linguist at NYU in New York City and he has studied the language in North Macedonia and says it is almost identical to the language spoken by Tsar Dusan in the 14th century (Great Serbian King). While I agree with many of you, that modern Macedonia is "chalk full o' Bulgarians", they are not the exclusive "Slavs" in the region. Many of us are Serbs, know that we are Serbs and reject any and all notions of a "modern Macedonia".You see, what the communists did in Yugoslavia was very interesting. They wanted to weaken the Serbian majority. One of the things which happened in areas like the Sar region is that families which are Serbian, had Serbian roots, Serbian blood lines and most importantly, Serbian names, were FORCED by the goverment to change their names and begin a "modern Macedonian" education.So, in Mr. Najdovski's case, his family name would have probably been something like Najdic or Najdov (if Bulgarian) and the government forced his family to change it to Najdovski. Simultaneously, the fictional republic of Macedonia was created, along with the fictional language. Over time,

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So, in Mr. Najdovski's case, his family name would have probably been something like Najdic or Najdov (if Bulgarian) and the government forced his family to change it to Najdovski. Simultaneously, the FICITIONAL republic of Macedonia was created, along with the fictional language. Over time, many Serbs (in the North) actually started to tow the government line and now, in the North, many Serbian families actually call themselves "Macedonian". Despicable, yes, but true.Let me give you a quick story about my wife. Her maiden name was "Stojanovski". On a trip "back home", I did some investigating and found government land and birth records, which proved her Grandfather's last name was Stojanovic (Serbian) in 1944. After 1951, every record indicated his name was changed to "Stojanovski".
i rest my caseStavros