The Movie can only Be Sketchy

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iskander_32

The Movie can only Be Sketchy

Post by iskander_32 »

With all the booha with this movie,,, I think common sense says we may all be expecting too much.look at Lord of The Rings a trilogy of 3 hour movies to relay a pretty basic story,, Sorry for running down Tolkien but in comparison to the Alexander story it is to me straight foreward and basic,,, Yet it took 9 hours plus to make the story brilliant and almost credible with the die hard Tolkien purists and it is argued the films could have been even longer to do the books real justice.All we can really expect from our movie is a slimmest outline, All we can ask and hope is that what we do see is good, It will never do Alexander justice,, it would be impossible to bring the Alexander story to film in its entirety. It took Mel Gibson several hours just to try understand 12 hours of Jesus Christ.As Alexander readers I think we gotta take a step back and try not to be critical,, We are purists and nothing but a blow by blow account would suite us, A real Alexander movie in my opinion is impossible.We can only look at the screen see someones interpretation af a person we all study and leave it at that, If we shut off our critical eyes and just enjoy it for what it is.
RegardsKenny
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Post by Linda »

Sorry - if a film is rubbish, then it is rubbish. The film-maker should have thought of the limitations before he made it. There is no use being apologist for it - what's the point? It is not us "purists" being disappointed, but just people who watch films. I am sure there is a good film to be made about Alexander. Although maybe Alexander damned himself when he wished for a Homeric elegy. Did he touch wood when he said it? We will never know....But the film might not be rubbish. Here's hoping.
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Post by damonsfan »

Yea I easily agree with you. With alot of these epic movies alot of it comes down to the director and creative teams interpratation of whatever it is they did the film on. I mean there will always be people that don't like the movie and there will be others that love the movie. I mean no matter what the reviews say I'm going to Alexander to form my opinion for myself.
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Post by ruthaki »

I agree with you, Kenny. No doubt there's going to be a lot of the scholars and 'purists' here on this site who will not like the movie at all. But it's just a movie and a movie maker's interpretation of history. At least he had Robin Lane Fox as a consultant, which was a plus. It will, at most, be a stunning epic with all the new techo. they use for film making. I'm frankly looking forward to it and hoping it will be much more satisfactory that that lame attempt they made with Richard Burton.
luisfc1972

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Post by luisfc1972 »

iskander i believe you are losing faith only because of two amateur reviews on aicn (those reviews said absolutely nothing). yes alexanders story cannot be told in a mere 3 hours. it would take at least 200 millions US dollars to get close to do his story justice. i mean come on, issus is not in the movie and it is arguably be the most important battle in all of european history. anyhow, oliver stone couldnt get the financial backing that peter jackson did. dont lose faith, by the time november 24th comes, i have no doubt Alexander will humble all the doubters. no doubt
iskander_32

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Post by iskander_32 »

Ruth hail.Sorry I liked Burton As Alexander but its all about pewrsonal taste etc.I am not rubbishing or putting the movie down at all,, Its just I am not placing hight expectations in a 3 hour movie that could hardly touch the surface.
I expect the marvel and the things that are done to be impresive but please let none of us expect a realistic story.In my opinion the Story of Alexander the Great is probably the greatest story that can be told.To get a fair story of Alexander,, We would need all the great directors, actors and screenplay writers and countless hours of story.As Alexander purist it should be enough to see our guys name up in lights with the hope it ignites interest in people that would inevitably want to know about our chosen noble warrior and king.Bottom line,,, Its only hollywood and when did hollywood get anything right,, to expect more is to be folly.regardsKenny
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Post by rollsrite »

well for one i'm hoping for the best. i know it's hollywood and it's true about the lord of the rings but i'm still hopeful and plan to be there on nov.24th when it opens near me. i have reservations but i'm just hoping that the populous gets a taste of what we've been saying all along alexander is the greatest. tina
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Post by jan »

I honestly believe that many movies should be made of Alexander, not a single epic. I would like to see a movie devoted to nothing but the six months battle of Tyre. But that will only happen if someone really is interested in the stories of Alexander. An epic movie on Alexander is simply not plausible. There has to be demand, and probably educational movies will be the best finally. The reviewers are mostly interested in the frontal nudity scene of Roxanne, and that will sell the movie more than anything else. So far, from all I have read, Roario Dawson will emerge the "star" of the movie.
luisfc1972

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Post by luisfc1972 »

its too bad that mel gibsons plan to make a whole series (about 10 episodes) on alexander didnt come through. that would have been awesome indeed.anyhow, to all you doubters take a look at this.5 minute clip on the making of alexander, just click on "click here to download the file now" http://s2.yousendit.com/d.aspxid=31F124 ... 89A41BE36E
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Post by calesstheness »

Kenny has a point here.
It is only a Hollywood Movie.
Regarless of who makes it, it is very difficult to encapsulate in 3 hours a complex run of events with a myriads of reasons why he did this, he did that.
And we surmise and divine what goes on his mind when not dead certain of the reason as inescapable fact. Or lacking other reasons thereof.
A movie cannot simply tell us all what we want to hear, see and know.
And being an Oliver Stone movie, expect less.I just hope he did more researches and hired more historians as consultants than Tom Cruise and his people did at "Last Samurai", when Tom explicitly put the number of invading Persians at Thermopylae to be in the order of million(s).
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Post by Linda »

Well, I am glad there are some better reviews coming through - I really want to see a good film. But I don't think Achilles was particularly served well by the recent Troy film. So publicity can be bad - Alexander could be seen in a worse light by this film. Incidentally, I think it is funny that Alexander, whose interest in women was minimal, and in sex in general was not reported to be that great, should have in film made about him in which the star may be a naked woman. :) Although, looking forward to the battle scenes..
luisfc1972

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Post by luisfc1972 »

well im not sure if you can call it a hollywood movie with stone directing it and being financed in europe.
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