Alexander Would get todays vote

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Re: Alexander Would get todays vote

Post by iskander_32 »

Jonah about what do you fully agree.Cyrus sorry did you say Alexander The Great was not as great as Bush.Are you serious or trying to be a comedian.If your serious in what way was Bush greater that Alexander,,, I really gotta hear it.
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"They send our and your sons to die in the name of the excuse they bring up,,, Yet at the same time they expect parents to sacrifice there own,,, they as leaders do not."But the sons (and the fathers) of Macedonians were still sent to a foreign land to fight and perhaps die. Yes, there was a difference in that Alexander also fought alongside them - or in front of them much of the time. And the death rate amongst the Macedonians was far less than those they opposed - but still some of them died far away from home "in the name of the excuse" Alexander brought up. Whether we think Alexander's "excuse" is valid is much the same as what people think today. Has no one ever wondered what the Macedonian women left behind thought about Alexander's campaigns - their husbands and sons gone for ten years or more, and perhaps never coming home? And they had no vote in the matter.:-)Linda Ann
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It depends on what the greatness means for you, if you see it in military abilities then Alexander was greater than bush (however it is meaningless with due attention to the modern military advances) but if see it in fighting against oppressors then Bush is greater than Alexander.
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Bush intends to oppress 1/2 his own people by forcing the bible on them by using extremist right wing judges to "interpret' the Constitution HIS way, by making laws to subordinate everyone but christians and by allowing his drilling, mining and timber buddies to take over, he'll trash the land, air and water. Sorry but he's not great by ANY stretch of the imagination. He's a religious nut, an "end of the world" believer and by god he'll bring it on, and has the compassion and wisdom of a rock. He's an ugly thing in a harmless looking package, a liar and has a powerful media machine behind him to convince everyone to go to the slaughter with a dumb smile on their face, like hollow eyed sheep
Some people better wise up about what thus guys like and start paying closer attention to what he's REALLY saying not what you THINK he's saying
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The important point is that he ended the dictatorship in the two countries of the world and it is enough to call him the greatest man in the world.
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"The greatest man in the world" - well, I think this is a bit exaggerated, but he did indeed terminate two brutal regimes. Probably the Iraq war could have been followed up by a smarter policy, but the removal of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein deserves praise.And (this is my reply to Kenny) I think Bush is greater then Alexander. Not because Bush is truly great, but because I can not admire a king who orders the execution of POWs, women, children, and elderly. Nor can I admire a man who can not control his drinking habits and kills one of his own friends in a drunken rage.Jona
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Thank you Nax! Well said.Jona, what "removal or brutal regimes" are you possibly talking about??? What on earth are you thinking???Afganistan (apart from Kabul) is in the hands of either the Taliban or local warlords that are far worse that them. The women are as oppresed as they ever were, there's no sense of safety anywhere, 95% of the heroin in Europe comes from Afganistan (while there was practically no heroin production under the Taliban) and the list can go on for ever...I won't even start with Iraq which was indeed a brutal regime (same as most Middle Eastern ones). But look at it now. Hundreds of thousands of people are dead, a relatively progressive & secular country lays in ruins, the foundamentalists and terrorist are having the party of their lives and western companies are making big bucks from lucrative, arbitrarily awarded contracts intended to compensate for past (and future) favors. I better stop here because I can go on for ever!I would expect you of all people to have more common sense and be able to read between the lines...
This fellow (Bush) is just a puppet. Behind him are other interest groups that are interested in dominating US political & social life. Let's see if in a few years the rest of the world will have to "liberate" the US from Christian foundamentalist oppresion!
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"Let's see if in a few years the rest of the world will have to "liberate" the US from Christian fundamentalist oppression"! As far as I'm concerned what a beautiful thought but in all reality if the US felt oppression from the rest of the word, (this would not happen with our close allies) the congress would re-constitute the draft, rations gas to the public to keep its reserves up and believe me you and the rest of the third world would be SOL (screwed!) We would attack all of yous from all fronts. What a horrible thought but that's exactly what would happen.
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Post by Francis »

When somebody says GWB is greater than Alexander, one starts to think that, as T S Eliott wrote, this world is about to end "not with a bang but with a whimper".
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Err, Bush isn't fit to hold my jockstrap, not that I need one but it conveys the sentiment, let alone kiss Alexander's big toe, nor to be mentioned in the same sentence.
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I Just want to tell how much stupid can be some of yours thinking.Lets see,how many of your can image to go back to time of your parents and grandparents young years.Can you see the diference beetween generations.Most of you cannot image what stuborn nature have to have that Alexandar,or Phillip or who ever from that distant,realy distant past.He have been bloody murderer who with his own hand have buchered hundreds of people.Megalomaniak who on the top of his mania he become god himself.Bush is way,way more civilised,and he is not a lone in decision making.He like every US president have administration and hipertechnology.For the war he have not been that deadly but he have done everything with the mean od greater goodness.I mean you can ask Srbs and Iraqis what have done to them previous peaceful administration of Mr Bill.He is quite rare example of stateman who bomb one country only to change the focus of the public from his sexual misconduct.
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