Jan Define your idea on diety

[iskande-32]

JanI have always regarded your opinions with Alexander been diety, I believe the very same.I express in open life my beliefs on the subject and may seem peculiar but in reality Alexander was as near to been god as anyone else would claim.If he did make this claim w should we doubt it christians dont doubt theres even though its based on the Bible no more than the Illiad a collection of nice stories for people in desperate times.Most of the Bible can be scientifically and chronologically disproved, and although Alexanders story older there is actual text statues testimonies and histories all over the word.Maybe he wasnt god but he got some divine help.regardsKenny

[smittysmitty]

Kenny, a question for you if I may!how many different people do you post under, Tina Dunlap, Gemini, I cant remember the other several, why do you do so? Are all these people accessing the one computer or a case of multiple personalities?I don't mean to be rude, but makes things easier if you use the one name
cheers!

[iskander_32]

Smitty with all due respect,since I came to this group the name you see is the only one I ever had and posted many posts and replies, I dont hide behind alias.Smitty with all due respect, I know the guys and spoken to them, Paranoi can be an aweful thing.I am who I am Iskander was all I could have all the Alexandernames and aliases I couldnt have to register.
Are you who you say you are, Im no fraud or alias,respect.kenny

[iskander_32]

Smitty SmittyI dont want to be rude but why not just Smitty or is Smitty Smitty plural and you want to double emphasise yourself.No offence but please take a long walk from a short pier.Who knows you may be able to walk on water,if not its a swim with the Dolphins.regardskenny

[marcus]

Hi Kenny,Things start to get very dangerous when bringing religion into the discussion.I'm not sure what definition of 'deity' you (and Jan) use, but I find it very hard to understand how Alexander could have been one - or even close to one.As for many biblical events being scientifically disproved ... well, that isn't a discussion for this forum but I would warn anyone against such sweeping statements. Anyway, what might or might not be historically inaccurate about the Old Testament should not be used to invalidate a single word of the New Testament.All the best.Marcus

[susan]

MarcusI agree with what you're saying. The scope of this forum is, broadly, the historical and legendary Alexander, and his life and times. Messages about historical religion, politics and ethics are within the scope; messages about current religion, politics and ethics are starting to get off topic, and can easily offend other visitors. Also, the forum doesn't just want visitors who think Alexander is Great - all views are welcome so long as they are politely expressed.So, can we keep off the topic of current religious views, please ?Susan

[iskander_32]

MarcusWithall due respect religion was a great part of Macedonian culture and Alexanders persona, His legacy and travels opening routs for other religions to flourish.To some of us Alexander bears the same halmarks as Jesus Islam is really derogetory and unrespectful of my neliefs and others,,Predjudiced and biased I stand by Alexander and will bear testament to his story his history and his legacy, note history history is a written testament to actual events written and redocumented.The Bible nor the Koran are historical text, Likened to the illiad only a bearing on periods of time.For you to say not a word of the New Testament is also a sweeping statement one exmple that has been historically proved, during the time of Jesus criminals were crucified across the trunks of trees not forced to carry crosses through baying crowds following bean beaten to an inch of his life.My post was to jan and my words were examples I asked her opinion on Alexander diety, jan has hers and so do I.You will probably erase this post,but people who run from the trueth that impedes there own distorted views generally do because they cant prove themselves.I cant prove Alexander was from god as much as christians but we all have faith and entitled to express,We all get to know in the end were probably all wrong.regardskenny

[marcus]

Hi Kenny,I have no power to erase messages, so you don't need to worry about that.I have to disagree with much of what you say; however, I don't intend to get into conversations about religion here, so I suggest we leave it there.All the bestMarcus

[iskander_32]

MarcusFair play I respect your views as I hope you do mine,Its a subject of huge interest,I have no problem at all with any faith,without faith what are we, religion and the way its interpreted is my prob.regardsKenny

[jan]

Hi Kenny,My belief in the divinity aspect of Alexander is twofold: one, the laws that the Greeks used to determine who became acknowledged as god or divine being, and secondly, the Egyptians and the Persians who accepted immediately that Alexander is god.\I don't use today's definition of God regarding Alexander's status. I read that it was a matter of law and recognition, according to how successful he haed been in his achievements in battles, games, and city building. He surpassed everyone in history so he truly deserves the appelation.I do have the opinion that the Greeks had access to knowledge and spirituality in a manner different from today's ministries. As a result, they practice their religious rites differently from the modern worlds methods of practice.

[jan]

Kenny, more on divinity. A statement in a book about King Darius mentions the term omnipresent. I believe that Alexander had what I call omniscience. These two terms are sometimes used today to describe what God is supposed to be like.Omnipresent means everywhere at once, and supposedly, King Darius controlled so much in his Persian Empire that is what made him omnipresent. As I have learned through Alexander that Alexander's mind is knowing everything there is to know about everything, I call his mind omniscient! To me, he does approach the state of Godhead! for that reason. I had an experience in Alexander's mind that revealed to me his omniscient state, and that is why I testify to it for your knowledge. If anyone had a mind like the catalogue of a library, Alexander did.

[jan]

Kenny, more on divinity. A statement in a book about King Darius mentions the term omnipresent. I believe that Alexander had what I call omniscience. These two terms are sometimes used today to describe what God is supposed to be like.Omnipresent means everywhere at once, and supposedly, King Darius controlled so much in his Persian Empire that is what made him omnipresent. As I have learned through Alexander that Alexander's mind is knowing everything there is to know about everything, I call his mind omniscient! To me, he does approach the state of Godhead! for that reason. I had an experience in Alexander's mind that revealed to me his omniscient state, and that is why I testify to it for your knowledge. If anyone had a mind like the catalogue of a library, Alexander did.

[iskander_32]

JanI like and understand all what you say, I feel you have a far better understanding of this than I you are more rational.maybe I crossed to terms and beliefs maybe I shouldnt but, I all honesty I feel putting any concepts aside there was definately something super human about our man.People historians and scholars maybe even people in this group, would pick out people who achieved more than Alexander.Upon reflection I dont thing any one achieved so much with so few in little time against enormous odds.regardskenny

[marcus]

Hi Jan,The trouble is that the Persians didn't accept that Alexander was a god (at any time, that I'm aware of, and definitely not immediately). Also, Egyptian pharaohs were automatically accorded divine status, but whether or not it was truly believed that Alexander, or any other foreign ruler, was *really* divine is a moot point - after a while these things can become customs rather than actual beliefs. All the bestMarcus

[marcus]

Jan, Jan, Jan. Ruling the world doesn't make you omnipresent. Unless you truly can be everywhere at once, it just ain't gonna be true.As for Alexander being omniscient, I really can't see how you can come to that conclusion.All the bestMarcus