And what about Aristotle?

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And what about Aristotle?

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Well, this new theory about ATG's mysterious death is quite interesting but, there is lack of evidence to make you believe. If we assume that he was poisoned, than, there is one speculation that Aristotle was involved in the poison-making process. They were very close, like father and son but later, they became estranged, due to their difference of opinion on the status of foreigners and maybe due to Callisteness' murder. So, my question is what do you think about this possibility because Aristotle knew a lot about chemistry, poisons, viruses and their effects into human body?Regards
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Dear Poli
I believe Aristotle would never do that.Aristotelis would be afraid of doing that because of the potential destroy of his mother land Stagira Halkidikis.I believe it's all about kallisthenis death.Kallisthenis was a very moral man.He was a philosopher at all.I believe every kinikos philosopher would do the same.
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Well, I'm going with the poison theory in my novel because I was backed up by someone from the Society of Maced. Studies in Thessaloniki. Theory is that Kassandros (on hand and allegedly responsible for A's untimely death) learned about a toxi concocotion while studying under Aristotle (as the boys did for two years in their youth). A lethal plant (leaf) mixed in the water which he carried with him to Babylon and which his brother, A's wine-pourer, mixed with the wine. There's probably going to be a lot of poo-pooing about this but that's the way I see it and when I ran it by the Secty' of M. Studies in our interview she agreed with the theory of poison hastening his death.
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Hi and thanks for your response. Somehow, I'm inclined to believe in this theory of poison hastening his death, too. And do you know the name of that lethal plant? And if Cassander carried the toxic mixture with him to Babylon, than who prepared it? Maybe it was some endemic type of plant (or tipical for the Macedonian region) or maybe it was not a plant? Yes, Cassander's brother, Iolaus, was Alexander's chief cupbearer and this happened soon after Cassander arrived (so, it's reasonable to assume that he mixed it with the wine). Obviously, that night Alexander was preparing himself to go to bed when Medius invited him to supper with him. There he drank a lot.....etc."At the time nobody had any suspicion of his being poisoned, but upon some info given 6 years after, they say that Aristotle counselled Antipater to do it, and that by his means the poison was brought (sbd heared king Antigonus speak of it) and the poison was some water, deadly cold as ice, distilled from a rock in the district of Nonacris, which they gathered like a thin dew and kept in an ass's hoof, for it was very cold and penetrating that no other vessel would hold it. It was also strange that during the dissensions among the commanders, which lasted several days, the Alexander's body continued being clear and fresh..." (Plut.)So, what's your opinion?
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Hi,I've always been of the belief, Antipater was behind ATG's untimely death, the type of poison is probably of no importance, as there would be huge array of poisonous weeds from Europe or Asia that could do the job. Rather than going into a lengthy discussion as to why he was poisoned, and Antipaters motivation, I find perhaps the most revealing factor behind such a proposition, is the lack of grief from ATG's marshalls and army. Rather, a general 'relief' was swept over the lot of them, maybe even to the point of hapiness!The inuendo (poisoning) whether present at the time, or later, and the lack of retribution from even the 'Royalists' suggests it was not worth pursuing,albeit Olympias'throwing of Ioals' ashes to the wind a few years later implicates Antipater quite strongly, at least in her mind.juat my thoughts.
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