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alexanders name

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 2:55 pm
by Redhead
Is alexander a jewish name or a greek name>

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:59 pm
by Polyxena
Hi annonymous,
Alexander was one of the ancient Macedonian names ... so it was nor jewish nor greek. This name was frequently used in the Argead dinasty. In order to be recognized easier, they used numbers: Alexander I, Alexander II (Philip's brother), Alexander III (Alexander the Great), Alexander IV (Alexander's son by Roxane).
Regards,
Poliksena

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:46 pm
by Tre
Alexander, more properly Alexandros, is a Greek name translating as Defender of Men. The Macedonians often bore Greek names because they considered themselves Greek (it was the Athenians who didn't consider Macedonians Greek). Regards,Tre

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:24 am
by yiannis
Alexandros is indeed a Greek name meaning "protector" or "defender" of men, as Tre has already mentioned.
So is the name "Polyxena" that has a funny meaning, it means: "many foreigners" from Greek polloi "many" and xenoi "foreigners, strangers".
"Myrtale" is, ofcourse Myrtle, the aromatic bush.
Stratonike means, ofcourse, Victory of the army. Strato=army, Nike=victory.

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:10 am
by THE LIGHT 7000
... NAMES NAMES NAMES...= NAMEIS=NAMEUS !?
... IN ORIGINAL, NAME OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT MAKEDONIAN WAS/IS
OR IT SHOULD/COULD BE READED AS , AND MEANS ! IT IS SAME AS IT IS TODAY IN MAKEDONIA, AND FOR SAKE OF THE TRUTH -IT IS/WAS MAKEDONIAN NAME FOR MILENIA, STARTING WITH MAKEDONIAN DINASTY LONG BEFORE ATHENS WAS ESTABLISHED AS A TRIBAL CITY STATE! THE LIGHT 7000

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:21 am
by THE LIGHT 7000
DEAR FRIENDS,SOMOHOW THE KEY WORDS FROM MY REPLY ARE MISSING AND I DO NOT KNOW WHY!!!?. DO YOU FEEL UNSAFE IN YOUR GREEKNESS AND YOU ARE MODERATING THE ORIGINAL NEMES AND TRUTH! AGAIN ORIGINAL NAME OF ALEXANDER WAS/IS
, PH=F, AND SHOUL/ COULD BE READED AS , AND MEANS , ...POTHOS=PATHOS=PAT=WAY IN MAKEDONIAN, OR IT COULD BE/ IS POTOK=CREEK, MEANING MOVEMENT, DIRECTION, SO WHICH DIRECTION YOU ARE HEADING NOW WHEN PEOPLE ALL ARROUND THE WORLD ARE SEEKING FOR THE TRUTH AND RESPECT FOR THEIR CULTURAL HERRITAGE... INTERESTING ISN'T IT MY DEAR FRIENDS!
THE LIGHT 7000

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:24 am
by Tre
Well, in a word, no. Alexandros is most definitely a Greek name and the Argead house considered themselves Greek. It is what they thought of themselves that mattered, not the political rivalry of moderns whose opinions are skewed by their nationality.

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:27 am
by THE LIGHT 7000
NOW FOR THE THIRD TIME, AGAIN IT IS FANNY ISN'T IT,
THE NAME OF ALEXANDER IN ORIGINAL WAS/IS =ALEXANDROU PHILIPOU MAKEDONON= AND IT SHOULD / COULD BE READ AS =ALEXANDROV FILIPOV MAKEDONOT=, AND MEANS =ALEXANDER THE SON OF FILIP THE MAKEDONIAN
... NOW LET SEE WHAT WILL CAME UP IN REPLY, MAYBE FOR THE LAST TIME, ... NICK, I DO NOT THAT YOU ARE SLEEPING, HA HA HA , OR YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH ALL THIS NATIONALISTIC EPISODES FROM STH. OF MT. OLYMP OR WAS IT OLYMPUS,...HA HA HA
THE LIGHT 7000

Re:Re-Yannis K- alexanders name plus...

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:15 am
by THE LIGHT 7000
Yannis, Kalispera file,
... you forgot to explain that Hellens=Xellens means Newcommers, resettled i.e. seleni=resetled, xselleni=resetled, Hellens/Xellens were ressetled in Makedonia from Africa via Egipt and that is why there is connection with Egypt. Further more you did not mention what Argeadi means in Makedonian...
If you are talking facts you should know that the coin has two sides, not one, or was it with four sides, I don't know my friend, you find out but not attack persons with personality's, it is cheap ...
The Light 7000

Re: Re:Re-Yannis K- alexanders name plus...

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:38 am
by yiannis
I'd like to explain all this that you mention, but unfortunately I only speak Greek and English, so I wouldn't know what these words mean in your Slavic language.
Good thing that you're not Ukranian, or you'd call AtG as "Oleksandr"!
:-)PS
Good to have you back, we sure needed a good laugh!

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:33 am
by Polyxena
Hi Yianakos or whatever,
Thanks for taking the time to analize my name but, I've already known that. As I can see, the subject of this message is not "Poliksena's name" but, "Alexander's name" ... and I'm sorry, althought you've tried so very hard to change some facts by simly adding -OS at the end(as you always do.... which I consider funny) still you can't change the FACT that we are talking about one of the most frequently used ancient MACEDONIAN names.
Regards and don't get angry,
Poliksena

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:58 am
by yiannis
My name is clearly stated so there shouldn't be a problem for you to spell it correctly.Anyway, the name is one of the oldest Greek names indeed (as the ancient Macedonians were) and it is Alexandros.
Look at the coins that he stroke:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... ory=4738It mentions BASILEOS (KING) ALEXANDROU (genitive form of Alexandros) in Greek not in any Slavic language as modern day Macedonian is. As a metter of fact EVERY inscription found in Macedonia was in Greek.Moreover there's no need for you to be hostile towards me just because history in not in agreement with your prenotions...

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:35 pm
by Polyxena
Hi everybody,First, Yiannos K. sorry for the wrong spelling of your name ... don't get it too much personal, it was a little difficult to remember.Second, I think we are not here to "fight" as somebody might think, but to share our knowledge and learn more. I'm learning from the remained texts and proofs of the ancient past and that's why I think there is no doubt that Alexander was an ancient Macedonian as his name was, too. Just be realistic and read all those books about him. And, please don't mix the ancient times with the modern ones. Let us respect what Alexander was. We are not here to change the facts but to see them.Now, I would like to pose one question: I admire Italy and Italian people, their language, tradition, cultural heritage.... etc and more... I speak italian, too. Maybe I want to be Italian and maybe even I feel I am, but, does all this make me Italian? Or my blood and family heritage matters?
On the other hand ... I have a Greek name ... does this mean I'm a Greek, too? And if I come to Greece to ask for a Greek passport and ID are they going to give them both because of my name and feelings?
We all speek english here... does this mean that we are all Americans? I try to be realistic.
Regards,
Poliksena

Re: alexanders name

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:29 pm
by stavros
yiannis. dont even bother man. next alexander will be mexican.

Re: Re:Re-Yannis K- alexanders name plus...

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:30 am
by THE LIGHT 7000
Re: Yannis K,Dear Sir/Madam,With all due respect for your knowledge and sense for GÇ£humanityGÇ¥, i.e. human respect to each other, on this forum and in the world, I am proposing you, in your effort to come closer in search for truth about Alexander The Great Makedonian and Makedonia, not to waste your time and going to Ukraine, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc., but to search in your own back yard- Aegean part of Makedonia, today Nth. Greece, Nth. Of Mt. Olymp. Only there you will find answers beginning with recognition and respect towards Makedonians and Vlachs. Only for these you have no respect at all, labelling them Slavs, Gypsy etc., so one could think twice before making some serious statement about Alexander, and not taking in consideration cultural heritage of Makedonians and Vlachs. Why!? Because Alexander has, maybe, Makedonian and Vlachs bloodline from his mother! As you know, maybe you are Vlach too,(as many of my own closest friends), Vlachs are ancient Makedonian tribes and later mixing with Illyrian they were rulers of Epirus and some of them use to live in Thesally, (shepherds i.e. chobanos= chobani!) That is why some of them are assimilated with Helens and others, mainly those from Thesally, and others from Epirus, because of their close relation with Rome, they are somehow Romanised, so their language is almost simular to Italian! Here we are making distinction between those people living in these areas and newcomers in Nth. Albania and Romania, which are not the same. (You will find interesting fact that ancient Makedonian tribes Calabri has moved to Sicily and they have same name Calabria. Sicilians are not admitting fact that they are part of Rome/Italy and they are almost state in state with Rome/Italy as was Makedonia under Ottoman rule, same systemGǪ!) . The biggest issue here is their cultural heritage and customs. They are almost identical with Makedonians but have almost nothing to do with Helens/Greek tradition, which is mix of manyGǪ Even today those persons on the Greek border wearing GÇ£traditionalGÇ¥ Greek clothes, are Vlachs with some Makedonian elements. So ancient Makedonia is nothing without Makedonians and Vlachs and those from Sth. Albania, i.e. Illyrians and Epirians, as a part of Makedonian Nation! GǪI hope that you will appreciate these informationGÇÖs for benefit of allGǪ!With respect- The light 7000