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as you can see...

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2002 8:35 pm
by Kanenas
accorgingly to the Mecedonian language (like eden, dva) you cannot find any today residents in India or in Pakistan who could be related to the ancient macedonians...
:o)
P.S:Unless you reffered to the real macedonian language....then you will easily notice that Kalash(Kalash was a general of Alexandros) en, du, tre looks like todays greek ena, dio, trea....Sorry if i could not find any site in english that related to them, for that reason i will give you some greek ones.
(1)for info Kalas or Kalash dont live in any city but in small villages in north Pakistan. They count not more than 6 thousand, and also living in a isolated and mountainous region of upper than 3000 metres high!!.
(2)They were discovered by a Belgian researcher in middle 80's, but we(the greeks) learnt about them in middle 90's :)))
(3) They are speaking a language close to a mix of ancient greek and ancient persian, but their traditions, customs and beliefs are still Greek, reminding a lot ancient greek customs traditions etc..
Sorry ....Former Yugoslav Republic of Mac...
:o)

http://mani.org.gr/Diafora/kalas1.htm
http://philippos.mpa.gr/kalas/kalas2.html
http://w4u.eexi.gr/~stefan/kalastot.html

i found some official sites

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2002 4:48 pm
by kanenas
Note: in 1994 the Scopjans (F.Y.R.O.M) sent some "scientists" in north Pakistan in order to prove that their origin is from ancient Macedonia..but they left without be able to exchange either one word with Kalash tribe..(REALLY is it possible such a tribe speaking a Bulgarian dialect ???!!!).
For example when Kalash meet an stranger or vistor their first word is XAIRE(=hello), in new greek is "XAIRETAI"..etc
For the above reasons the official stance of Slavomacedonia government is "BURY IT"
:o)
http://www.tourism.gov.pk/kafir-kalash.html
http://www.tourism.gov.pk/bamburet.html
http://www.tourism.gov.pk/nwfp.htm

Re: i found some official sites

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 3:25 am
by anon
They are all indo-european languages and related to certain degrees.
English Kalasha Khowar Nuristani Hindi-Urdu Pashtu Macedonianwho kura ka katsi kun sok koywhat kia kiagh kai kya su shtoI a awa uts mae zu jas (yus)you tu tu twi tum tu tiwhere kawa kura kor kidhar charta kadewhen kayo kiawaht koi kab kala koga

Re: as you can see...

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 1:10 pm
by geo
yes, in Michael Woods Book " In the footsteps of Alexander the Great' he shows photos of the Kalash dancing in Greek ceremonial dress.and points out the Greek facial profiles among them.these profiles are also seen through out Afghanistan, and even in countries north of Afghanistan!
I guess 11 years out there with thousands of young men on duty in an army can produce many profiles.
G

Re: i found some official sites

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 9:54 pm
by maciek
It's great that Alexander gave so strong roots there. So as I understood we can meet almost the same language and castoms as in Alexanders' times.
So are You from Macedonia Kanenas? can You send me Your e-mail adress?

Re: ?????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2002 11:26 pm
by Kanenas
You mean Bulgarian...koy = who?Yesshto = what?Yes. It can also mean 'why'. More commonly we use 'kakvo' for 'what'. jas(yus)= I ?'jas(yAs)' is a dialect form. In lit. Bulgarian we say 'as' (spelled az).ti = You ?
Yeskade = where?
Yeskoga = when?
YesThese are the correct meanings, yes
THE ABOVE IS a STATEMENT - ANSWER of a Bulgarian citizen about your language and the connections between todays Kalash tribe and Slavomacedonian language !!!!
How fool you are? You thought that you could ever trapped the world with your lies????
HOW MUCH DISCUSTING AND THIEVES YOU ARE BOYS??YOU ARE ALL TOO small if you think that presenting Bulgarian words as "makedonian" you will prove anything more except for that you are a manufactured nation by Tito and his communist compatriots !!!
By the way has the name of ALEXANDROS has any meaning in your language ????
the name of Alexandros father PHILIPPOS ?
i am asking you because in my language all these words have meaning,
ALEX + ANDROS = ALEX (protect) + ANDROS (man) in other words means "man who is protected"
do thou want other examples ? ALEXI + KERAYNO =ALEX(protect) + KERAYNO (thunder) = lightning rod
ALEXI + PYRA = protect + PYRA(fire), = fire proof
ALEXI + SFAIRA = protect + SFAIRA(bullet)= bulletproof
ALEXI + PTWTO = protect + PTWSH(fallen) = parachute
ALEXI + PHOTO = protect + PHOS(light) = lampshade
and now how about the word PHILIPPOS ?????
PHIL + IPPOS = PHILO (friend) + IPPOS (Horse) = He who "love the horses
other examples : PHIL + ARMONIKH = friend + ARMONIA(armony)
PHIL + ATHLITISMOS = friend + ATHLITISMOS(sport) = sports fun
PHIL + ARGYROS = friend + ARGYROS(silver) = avaricious
PHIL + ALITHIS = friend + ALITHIS(true) = truthful
PHIL + EIRINIKOS = friend + EIRINIKOS(peace) = peace-loving
and many many many other examples ....and as you can see i only use NEW GREEK , which means that a 12 year greek boy who study in a secondary greek school could easily prooves you false (especialy if that boy has a bulgarian friend :).
ABOUT THE TRIBE of KALASH NOW
i will present you just one verb
ISPATA (in kalash tribe has the meaning of "sincere welcome" )
the ancient type is : ISPAZOMAI (had the meaning of "a respectful kiss

i want a favour

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2002 11:58 pm
by kanenas
in case you respond to me, pls think before you post.
P.S: the ancient verb ISPAZOMAI in new greek is ASPAZOMAI having the same meaning!

Re: as you can see...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 3:18 pm
by HPHAISTION
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE IS A GREEK ONE SUCH AS MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS! WORDS LIKE "DVA" E.T.C. ARE NOT MACEDONIANS BUT SLAVIANS!THE STATE CALLED "MACEDONIA" HAW NO RELATIONSHIP WITH ANCIENT MACEDONIA AS ITS PEOPLE ARE SLAVES! REAL MACEDONIA IS NORTHEN GREECE!