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The Razzies, which mock the worst in film, gave "Catwoman" a leading seven nominations Monday, among them worst picture, worst actress for Berry and worst supporting players for Sharon Stone and Lambert Wilson. "Catwoman" also was nominated for worst screen couple for Berry with either Stone or co-star Benjamin Bratt.
"'Catwoman' is the cinematic equivalent of a clump in the cat-litter box," Razzies founder John Wilson said. "Kind of a sad little thing laying there stinking up the place."The historical bomb "Alexander" was second with six Razzie nominations, including worst picture, worst actor (Colin Farrell), worst actress (Angelina Jolie) and worst director (Oliver Stone). Also Val Kilmer as worst supporting actor.The whole article:
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Even in wretchedness, Alexander didn't quite
make it..Personally, I think it's *shrunk* total interest in
Alexander. I hope so much that classics and
ancient history classes just ignore the movie.
Using movies in such classes is very trendy
now as an easy entrance to other, older reuses
of classical stories. .Those classes sometimes trouble me, but few
an argue with a Spartacus or Ben Hur.
Alexander, however, is a deep smoking crater of
bogosity, less likely to turn someone on to
Alexander than other clasical tortures, like
reading Justin in Latin, one paragraph a day.

"... like reading Justin in Latin, one paragraph a day."Oh, Tim, that was *withering*! :-)Marcus

I agree - I think that people will be less interested in Alexander, that fewer people will want to make (or will get funding) to make a film, or will get books published. It's a shame. Linda

Hi,This award strikes me as yet another example of the press jumping on the bandwaggon. Ok, the film was by no means perfect, but I don't think it was that bad! Unfortunately, I have to agree that it will have probably turned a lot of people off finding out about the real Alexander, which presumably was the exact opposite of Stone's intention. Like Linda said it's a shame.Cheers,Kate

LOL! And Colin Farrell is now being seen promoting his appearance on Scrubs this week on NBC. Very funny as to what being worst can get you, isn't it?In all truth, Oliver Stone should shoulder full responsibility for his fantasy! At least, Razzies is keeping the movie alive; otherwise, nobody will ever debate what is the cause of the death of Alexander the Movie!

What amuses me is that 'Troy' has been nominated for an Oscar for costume design, while Alexander wasn't.So sub-Xena fastasists win over historical reproduction.Oh well. M

The problem with the Alexander costumes is that, in general, they *weren't* historically accurate or good. They went to great lengths to get one or two to look right (the Alexander battle armour, for instance), but they made some horrible, and very avoidable, mistakes with most of the others.CheersHalil

From whence the word "bogosity"? You used it describing _The Virtues of War_ also, or at least the excerpts on the web, and just from the sound of the word, I think I agree... but, being fascinated with words, I looked up "bogosity" and could not find it. So where does it come from and what exactly does it mean?Warmly,
Karen

Now maybe I'm optimistically biased because I want to flog Alexander novels myself, but I really think that interest in Alexander will outlive this movie. It was already heating up before the movie came out, and those who were already interested aren't going to lose interest because of the movie; they'll just feel the movie fell short of the story. My opinion, anyway.Companionably,
Karen

Farrell isn't that bad an actor. So he had one film that didn't work out well for him. It's all water under the bridge at this point.I still liked the film and really want to see the DVD. As far as interest in the film goes, only time will tell. I still give Stone credit for taking on the challenge. For some it worked and for some it didn't. Thats the way life goes! I don't think it deserves all the venom it has gotten. It's far from the worse I have ever seen.Razzies, smazzies...just another excuse to give Ben Affleck another worse actor award. *wink* *wink*Dara

The historical bomb "Alexander" was second with six Razzie nominations, including worst picture, worst actor (Colin Farrell), worst actress (Angelina Jolie) and worst director (Oliver Stone). Also Val Kilmer as worst supporting actor.Yes, well deserved nominations too.Cheers!!OLD MACEDONIANGLISH Koen iyas sam gnayan aza to shwo iyasWhen i's am knowan as to what i's vizden aza tia gorosali gramatik rekoi odviewed as the colossal gramatik reckons ofMakedonsi histori, verieve moy velot sestra,Makedon's history, believe my word sister,brator, keyull gnayall totalno onadto shwo iyas brother, you'll knowall totally on to what i's vidu aza chisto voda. viewed as chaste water.

To each his own and I will just leave it at that. It's just tongue and cheek with no bearing on anything. The cast probably got a good laugh out of it anyway.Dara

I think its really harsh and that the media is largely just playing the populist card with 'Joe-Public' that knows nothing about the ancient world. Some people just love to kick a man when he's down and I sympathise with the people involved in the production when I see things like this. A lot of effort went into it, and I thought it was a beautiful film and the most historically accurate of the ancient world epic genre. I guess a lot of people where hoping to see a romanticised historical fiction along the lines of Braveheart, but the film has tried to stay as close to the historical sources as possible, and I commmend it for that. Unlike Braveheart (which I keep mentioning because a lot of people seem to say 'it was noway near as good as braveheart'), I found the characters in Alexander are believable, and are not larger than life. Although not necessarily feeling I understood the man any better, I came away from the film feeling I had had an insight into Alexanders life and the ancient world generally. And that for a few hours the ancient world lived and breathed again. Still, horses for courses as the saying goes, but I'd rate the film a solid 8 out of 10.*incidentally, dont get the wrong impression that I didnt like Braveheart! It was good!

I'm sad to hear that too. I thought Alexander, though the script wasn't good, was an amazing movie and single-handedly brought me from years of study in ancient history (Julius Caesar) to a fascination with Alexander the Great.So it made at least ONE convert. And I do think that the critics trashing it were more interested in finally "getting" the difficult Oliver Stone, than in whether the movie was any good or not. It was farm far better than Troy, for heaven's sake!