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primary sources?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:42 pm
by confused mom
My daughter wants to do a National History Day paper on the siege of tyre but her teacher wants 5 primary sources...since she's 13 and doesn't speak ancient greek or live in Istambul, can she fulfill this requirement? She's stuck with "whaling" as a topic if we can't get past this problem and she LOVES Alexander the Great. Any help from the experts would be appreciated
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:16 am
by davej
5 sources is a bit much for a 13 year old. I can only think of 4 readily available source. Arrian, Curtius, Plutarch and Diodorus. The fifth one is going to tough to crack. Good luck, it is better that the sources are relevent rather then numerous. Best source on Source is Karl Soundly (on this page). Ask Karl.
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:27 am
by susan
You could use Justin - that's available online but only in Latin. Susan
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:24 am
by maciek
Well Justin is not so bad and it's shortest from all those sources. I have it even in polish so it have to be quite aviable in english.Regards
Maciek
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:54 am
by susan
Yes, I meant that the only online version that I know of Justin, is in Latin.
There are coursenotes on the siege of Tyre, using the available sources, athttp://luna.cas.usf.edu/~murray/classes/aa/tyre-siege.pdfSusan
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:49 am
by marcus
Hi Susan,About a week ago I managed to find an English translation of Justin online. Problem is I don't have the URL any more. But it is there! (which is handy, because it's a lot cheaper than the Yardley translation in book format).All the bestMarcus
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:37 am
by susan
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:10 am
by agesilaos
Excellent, that goes straight into my favourites.As far as I know the only extant sources are Diodoros, Curtius, Arrian, Plutarch and Justin HOWEVER and it is a big however none of these is primary, all except Justin, who is tertiary, are secondary sources! Five primary sources would be Kallisthenes, Kleitarchos, Aristoboulos, Ptolemy and Onesikritos there are many more lost sources which could annoy the teacher some are listed in Plut Alx 46 but it is as well to be wary as we cannot know they treated the siege of Tyre nor how primary their work was.
Re: primary sources?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:23 am
by susan
What we need next is a translation of the Metz epitome ( and the Heidelberg epitome). As far as I know they're not online yet.There's a good overview of sources at at:
http://www.anchist.mq.edu.au/222/AuthorFrames.htm
I've got a version of Alexander's itinerary ( similar to Arrian but much abridged) but it's no longer online. It's an interesting bridge between Arrian & the Alexander Romance.Susan