Re: Alexander exhibition in Oxford
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:39 am
Yes militaries do have such matters covered by protocols and drills. Problem is the sources - including the ideal phalanxes of the Tacticians - do not go into the detail of what actually transpires during a battle; the latter being more interested in spacing, formation and the tactical dance of the phalanx in chaging order. As well, militaries do not generally court disasters by introducing variables that can weaken a formation or, more importantly, its absolutely crucial weapon.spitamenes wrote:Well, no matter how well a weapon is built, in the field, they simply DO fail. Often enough for militaries to have a protocol on what to do in case of such an issue,in order to not court disaster.Paralus wrote: the "joiner tube" simply could not fail: to do so was to court disaster.
Whilst we have no direct evidence for it, there exists the possibility that the phalanx formation - five rows of levelled sarisae in front - provided for the transfer of unbroken sarisae to the fore. I'd suggested this at Gabiene which drew comment. Here the argyraspides form into a tactical sqaure when harrassed by Peithon's cavalry. Having just been involed in driving Antigonus' phalanx from the field - a phalanx pursuit of sorts where "they were not to be checked in their charge" - one would suggest that not a few sarisae will have been broken. As well, the formation of that square will have certainly required men not in the front ranks to become so along with men whose sarisae had been broken or lost. Here weapons surely were passed to the "fronts" to present the deterent of spears.
Few descriptions of the phalanx in battle suggest anything in this regard. Two that do are the defence at Atrax and Sellasia. During the former Livy (likely based on Polybios) writes (32.17):
Here, guarding a breach in the city wall and in great depth, the phalanx presents a "shield wall" flush with sarisa points. The Romans evidently attempt to hack off the sarisa heads but find splintered shafts in their place. The phalanx is almost certainly is "synaspismos" and totally closed up in defence. I'd suggest that this would prevent a transfer of fresh sarisae from the rear. Makes one wonder if the deterrent would be the same in offense on a regular battlefield - splinters aren't about to penetrate armour.[Flamininus] sent on cohort after cohort to break through, if possible, the massed body of Macedonians, which they call the phalanx. But in the narrow space-for the breach in the wall was by no means a wide one-the kind of weapon he used and his style of fighting gave the enemy an advantage. When the serried Macedonian ranks presented their enormously long spears it was like a shield-wall, and when the Romans after fruitlessly hurling their javelins, drew their swords they could not get to close quarters, nor could they hack off the spear-heads; if they did succeed in cutting or breaking any off, the splintered shafts kept their places amongst the points of the uninjured ones and the palisade remained unbroken.
Polybios mentions a contentious procedure at Sellasia (2.69.9)
Here Doson has been forced back downhill by Kleomenes' phlalnx. The Macedonians stop the Spartans and Doson orders them to "close up their sarsas" in the "peculiar double phalanx" and deliver a "charge" and "thrust out" (epallelou phalaggos idiomati, bia prospesontes exeosan) the Spartans. A suggestion that this means the rear phalanx interposes into the forward phalanx, whilst bringing fresh men and sarisae to the fore, is seductive. That, though, is countermanded by the fact that these phalanges are already in this formation at 2.66.9:At length Antigonus ordered a charge in close order [sumphraxantes tas sarisas] and in double phalanx [epallelou phalaggos idiomati]; the enormous weight of this peculiar formation proved sufficient to finally dislodge the Lacedaemonians from their strongholds.
Polybios uses epallelon consistently as "one close behind the other" throughout (11.11.7, 12.18.5) when referring to cavalry and infantry and this is clearly what is meant. The object of closing up is the sarisae. Perhaps the double phalanx compacted from the rear, man on man ("man press'd helmet"), as it is difficult to see it thrusting the Spartans uphill in the tightest formation of "locked shields".Owing to the narrowness of the ground, the Macedonians were arranged in a double phalanx, one close behind the other (diphalaggian epallēlon tōn Makedonōn)...
Bit like a modern account not bothering to tell us how magazines are removed and replaced, triggers are squeezed and hammers cocked on guns, etc...
For Scott / Rocktupac:
I have totally forgotten about you question(s) to me regarding the "charge" of the phalanx. I can only plead untrustworthy memory due to being 35. Oops... seems dyslexia comes with it as well. Apologies for the rudeness.
In the above two instances of Gabiene and Sellasia two differing descriptions are provided. At gabiene Diodorus describes the argyraspides as being sumphraxantes or "packed closely" and as "falling upon" (epipesontes) those set against in a violent (biaioteron) manner. This coheres with Plutarch's "fell upon them in a rage" and one supposes it was not at a slow walk but somewhat quicker and with some rather seriously deadly intent.
At Sellasia the Macedonians stop the Spartans and then return serve - uphill. Here (as above) they violently thrust or force back the spartans and off the mountain and their fortress / stronghold (bia prospesontes exeosan ton okhuromaton tous Lakedaimonious).
In both cases the suspect is a word variously translated as "fall upon" (or attack). In both cases that is forceful and violent. Prospesontes is also used by Polybios at Raphia (5.84.8-9). Here Antiochus rides around the elphant battle on Ptolemy's left and charges or falls upon (prospesontes) Ptolemy's cavalry. Inside (that is, the other side) of the elephants the Greek thureophoroi also charge / fall upon (prosepontes) Ptolemy's guard troops of the agema and peltasts. Clearly the cavalry presopontes is a charge. What then of the Greek mercenaries?