Re: Alexanders Greek Additions?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:42 pm
Bob in which Arrian's quote are you reffering to?I searched through your posts and didnt find it.Can you mention which extract do you mean?And i will happily comment it.
As for the other quotes that you gaves us i have replied for some.About the calendar:There are 2 months identical with the Spartan calendar so we can assume that these 2 calendars have same origin, a dorian one maybe.About the Philotas incident decribed by Kurtius,the french publisher of Kurtius' works himself speculated that this passage may have been a rhetorical effort by Kurtius.(Kurtius gave more basis in rhetoric than to present facts as they happened,and thats why there are many errors in his work,if we contemplate it with the other sources). About the incident with Alexander calling the guards with the prase "aneboa Makedonisti" : This word is used by Plutarch but not by Arrian.And they both describe the same incident.Arrian uses the phrase "Alejandros de eboa anakalvn toys ypaspistas".So either the word Makedonisti was added later in Plutarch's work,or Plutarch meant something else, like that Alexander may have used a specific phrase to call his guards.But the most important fact here is that after this Alexander talked to his ypaspistas in attic.So it would be aukward to call them in the Macedonian language but then speak to them in attic. And something else to consider:If the Macedonians were considered a barbarians,Aristotle wouldnt have gone up there to teach Alexander (and we know what Aristotle thought of barbarians) neither many comedy and drama writers would go there to present their plays.But many famous greeks including Aristotle himself and Euripedes were of Macedonian origin.So how could the southern greeks consider them as barbarians?They didnt.
As for the other quotes that you gaves us i have replied for some.About the calendar:There are 2 months identical with the Spartan calendar so we can assume that these 2 calendars have same origin, a dorian one maybe.About the Philotas incident decribed by Kurtius,the french publisher of Kurtius' works himself speculated that this passage may have been a rhetorical effort by Kurtius.(Kurtius gave more basis in rhetoric than to present facts as they happened,and thats why there are many errors in his work,if we contemplate it with the other sources). About the incident with Alexander calling the guards with the prase "aneboa Makedonisti" : This word is used by Plutarch but not by Arrian.And they both describe the same incident.Arrian uses the phrase "Alejandros de eboa anakalvn toys ypaspistas".So either the word Makedonisti was added later in Plutarch's work,or Plutarch meant something else, like that Alexander may have used a specific phrase to call his guards.But the most important fact here is that after this Alexander talked to his ypaspistas in attic.So it would be aukward to call them in the Macedonian language but then speak to them in attic. And something else to consider:If the Macedonians were considered a barbarians,Aristotle wouldnt have gone up there to teach Alexander (and we know what Aristotle thought of barbarians) neither many comedy and drama writers would go there to present their plays.But many famous greeks including Aristotle himself and Euripedes were of Macedonian origin.So how could the southern greeks consider them as barbarians?They didnt.