Re: ATG Role Playing Board Game

c.benjamin tracy · Post by **c.benjamin tracy** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 10:09 pm

I stumbled upon this site while searching for anything on ATG at eBay. Want to role play, make a bid! Cheers!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3105916272

marcus · Post by **marcus** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 8:12 am

Hmmm...Still, Avalon Hill always did make some of the better RPGs (yes, I confess, I used to be a bit of an RPG nerd in my youth); but I don't think I'd bother trying to secure this particular one.All the bestMarcus

agesilaos · Post by **agesilaos** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 8:39 am

In fact this is not an RPG but a rather poor tactical wargame of Gaugamela which is reduced to a straight slogging match because both sides stretch to the board edge due to a designer's quirk. I speak as a wargamer and remember this getting slated by Charles Grant, now deceased, in the 70's.Sadly I can't think of any decent ATG games.

marcus · Post by **marcus** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 11:01 am

Thanks, Karl - I definitely won't be bidding for that, then!Somewhere amongst my belonging I do, in fact, have a stategy board game called "Alexander's Generals". I bought it some time ago now but have never played it - it was one of those "it's got something to do with ATG so I'll buy it" purchases, which I rather quickly regretted once I'd had a look at the contents of the box.I think I'll stick to reading about the chap, instead.All the bestMarcus

nick · Post by **nick** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:32 pm

Hi Karl -You wrote: "Sadly I can't think of any decent ATG games."Now I still think the iMagic computer-game "Great Battles of Alexander" (1997) is a DECENT game. I for sure learned much more about the role of Alexander's various units (hypaspists, Agrians, Thessalians and the inavluable Parmenion) by playing this game. OK, it may not live up to the "hyper-action, rough language & bloodshed" of Unreal Tournament 2003 - but I will continue to support this rare phenomenon in PC-gaming.Check my efforts at:http://www.wargamer.com/greatbattles/sagalassus.asp
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/persiangates_main.asp
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/megalopolis_main.asp
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/bagae_main.asp
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/aornus_main.asp
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/sangala_main.aspor my re-enactment of the victories of Darius I the Great at:
http://www.ianm.clara.net/html/darius_trilogy.html
I do not gladly admit that I am a nerd that is actually playing with these silly PC-simulations, but sometimes I do. And I think it is a decent simulation.Regards -
Nick

agesilaos · Post by **agesilaos** » Sun Jan 12, 2003 7:03 am

I got that game a while back but as a figure based gamer, or a big kid who likes playing with toy soldiers ( according to the local female population) I could never get on ith the mechanisms. I remember at Chaironea the Thebaban phalanx performing all sorts of weird and wonderful wheels that would have destroyed a real phalanx but gave them bonuses in the game, this could be sour grapes since the computer had clearly cheated by reading the rules! But as a simulation it lacked somewhat though I did like the murderous graphics.

marcus · Post by **marcus** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:31 am

Hi Nick,I agree about the iMagic game, although in some ways the "Great Battles of Caesar" is a better game.The problem with the Alexander game is that (a) it is too easy to win Chaeronea and Issus, and (b) too difficult to win Gaugamela. I am sure that the dice are loaded in the computer's favour - reforming units after rout is always more successful when the computer does it. Still, it passes the time of day...(I also got the Hannibal one, which is the weakest of the three - as far as I can see, physically impossible for Hannibal to win Cannae)All the bestMarcus