Hello, everybody!
I am new here and I have to say that I 've really found the "conversation" of the forum interesting.
I would like to ask if anybody knows a good site with informations about the (estimated) demographics of the ancient world and especially of Classical and Hellenistic period. Demographics (estimated) of Greece, Persia, Egypt etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Demographics
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nickw
Re: Demographics
You mean numbers? Population? (Demographics is a broad term.)The only reasonably 'reliable' (reliable?) figures that I know are that in Egypt lived 5 mln people in 2500 BC and 7.5 mln at the time of J.C.Gaul, one of the most important Roman provinces, had 10 mln inhabitants during they heyday of the Roman empire but far less than half of that before Roman conquest. The total population of the Roman Empire is esitmated between 60 and 100 mln inhabitants (with the latter figure more likely).Source: Cameron's Economoc History of the World. Cameron says that we have no reliable estimates whatsoever for Alexander's time nor for Greece in Alexander's time.Regards ---Nick
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nickw
Re: Demographics
You mean numbers? Population? (Demographics is a broad term.)The only reasonably 'reliable' (reliable?) figures that I know are that in Egypt lived 5 mln people in 2500 BC and 7.5 mln at the time of J.C.Gaul, one of the most important Roman provinces, had 10 mln inhabitants during they heyday of the Roman empire but far less than half of that before Roman conquest. The total population of the Roman Empire is esitmated between 60 and 100 mln inhabitants (with the latter figure more likely).Source: Cameron's Economoc History of the World. Cameron says that we have no reliable estimates whatsoever for Alexander's time nor for Greece in Alexander's time.Regards ---Nick
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thessaloniki
Re: Demographics
Thaks, Nick!
Yes, mainly I mean population, numbers.
I suppose there are not written facts from that period, though censuses (I think that's the write word in english? ) were carried out for financial reasons (taxes). But I imagine that we can estimate the population of that periods using several informations, such as ruins of the cities or even written documents. For example, I suppose we could estimate the population of a city or an empire by the number of soldiers that was able to afford.
Anyway, I find this aspect of history quite interesting, but I 've not been able yet to find a goor site.
I only now that during the period of Achemenides dynasty in Persia, the 3-4 more crowded cities of the empire ( Susa, Babylon, Ekbatana ) numbered each about 100-150.000 people. And that in India the same period must have been some cities of more than 200-250.000 people. On the other hand, China (that period) was sparsely populated. In fact, I 've read all of them in a historical-philosophical novel, but the author used to study a lot the historical parametres and says that the numbers are the "real" ones, so we can consider these facts quite "reliable".
Thanks a lot for the informations, Nick!
Regards,
Konstantinos- Thessaloniki
Yes, mainly I mean population, numbers.
I suppose there are not written facts from that period, though censuses (I think that's the write word in english? ) were carried out for financial reasons (taxes). But I imagine that we can estimate the population of that periods using several informations, such as ruins of the cities or even written documents. For example, I suppose we could estimate the population of a city or an empire by the number of soldiers that was able to afford.
Anyway, I find this aspect of history quite interesting, but I 've not been able yet to find a goor site.
I only now that during the period of Achemenides dynasty in Persia, the 3-4 more crowded cities of the empire ( Susa, Babylon, Ekbatana ) numbered each about 100-150.000 people. And that in India the same period must have been some cities of more than 200-250.000 people. On the other hand, China (that period) was sparsely populated. In fact, I 've read all of them in a historical-philosophical novel, but the author used to study a lot the historical parametres and says that the numbers are the "real" ones, so we can consider these facts quite "reliable".
Thanks a lot for the informations, Nick!
Regards,
Konstantinos- Thessaloniki
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thessaloniki
Re: Demographics
Thaks, Nick!
Yes, mainly I mean population, numbers.
I suppose there are not written facts from that period, though censuses (I think that's the write word in english? ) were carried out for financial reasons (taxes). But I imagine that we can estimate the population of that periods using several informations, such as ruins of the cities or even written documents. For example, I suppose we could estimate the population of a city or an empire by the number of soldiers that was able to afford.
Anyway, I find this aspect of history quite interesting, but I 've not been able yet to find a goor site.
I only now that during the period of Achemenides dynasty in Persia, the 3-4 more crowded cities of the empire ( Susa, Babylon, Ekbatana ) numbered each about 100-150.000 people. And that in India the same period must have been some cities of more than 200-250.000 people. On the other hand, China (that period) was sparsely populated. In fact, I 've read all of them in a historical-philosophical novel, but the author used to study a lot the historical parametres and says that the numbers are the "real" ones, so we can consider these facts quite "reliable".
Thanks a lot for the informations, Nick!
Regards,
Konstantinos- Thessaloniki
Yes, mainly I mean population, numbers.
I suppose there are not written facts from that period, though censuses (I think that's the write word in english? ) were carried out for financial reasons (taxes). But I imagine that we can estimate the population of that periods using several informations, such as ruins of the cities or even written documents. For example, I suppose we could estimate the population of a city or an empire by the number of soldiers that was able to afford.
Anyway, I find this aspect of history quite interesting, but I 've not been able yet to find a goor site.
I only now that during the period of Achemenides dynasty in Persia, the 3-4 more crowded cities of the empire ( Susa, Babylon, Ekbatana ) numbered each about 100-150.000 people. And that in India the same period must have been some cities of more than 200-250.000 people. On the other hand, China (that period) was sparsely populated. In fact, I 've read all of them in a historical-philosophical novel, but the author used to study a lot the historical parametres and says that the numbers are the "real" ones, so we can consider these facts quite "reliable".
Thanks a lot for the informations, Nick!
Regards,
Konstantinos- Thessaloniki