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Alexander the...time traveler.

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Alexander the... time traveler.
Did any of you ever think that what we believe about Alexander is not the truth?The most possible is that Alexander knew exactly what to do and how to do it.Nothing was based on Luck, and in my opinion he was a time traveler that came to create or change the timeline of another universe.Alexander did many things with very few because he knew what will happen, and he also got with him his superior guns and ships.Like the flying disc he saw before many battles.
Nobody found his body because he left back to his time, and thats the only explanation.
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Pray tell,Did he predict his own death?! How come he never prevented his acts of rage, at least those that he came to regret?Regards,
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'Like the flying disc he saw before many battles'Is this something from Eric von Daniken? please excuse the spelling.
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More to the point, what did he do with the REAL Alexander whose presence was well known to the Macedonians even as a child; entertaining Persian dignitaries, taming Bucephalus, commanding an army while regent at sixteen, etc. Not to mention that Olympias, Philip, and all of Alexander's friends would surely have noticed a sudden change in his appearance. Unless, that is, this time-traveler was also a doppleganger! Best regards,Amyntoros (who can't quite believe she is treating this as if it were a serious debate) :-)
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I did wonder ...
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I think it's a leftover reaction from my days in science fiction fandom. Or the perils of posting before I've had my morning coffee. :-)
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First things first.Alexander never really died, thats why we dont have his body.Second the fact that he had parents doesnt mean that everything is true! Jesus for example, is possible that he never was the person we think.Who can be sure that he existed?We know more about Jesus that we know about Alexander and many persons dont believe that he was real.The point is that after a great event humans create many stories before and after that.So is possible that what we know are just later stories.
About the flying discs, well i will find the historian that wrote about that.It is a fact that he saw many times this sign before his battle, was the sign he was waiting and maybe his secret.
Everyone that has a time machine would really like to do this! Its a serious theory people and think of it for a while!
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...we know more about who???
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Mlazos,I,m very intrigued to understand how and why you came up with this idea.Also,why do you need to believe that Alexander was something more than the actuality..a genius who was brilliant at putting himself into the mind of his enemies and so predicting their likely actions?You don,t need to be a time traveler to obey the first rule of war;know your enemy.
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The idea came to me years ago when i was studying greek literature and hidtory and i discovered many poems and songs, many scripts and books that speak about future technologies.After i knew the story of Alexander the great and the secrets of Delps in Olympia and the prophecies of the oracles i found some links between ancient greek future technology,the prophecies and Alexander that had with him everything.A person that never left his kingdom, he knew how to go to Persia and Babylonia, an army that didnt know the land outside greece attacked Persia and used also the land morphology to win.The tactics and strategic moves was like from future.So we have a king that get a prophecy that waits gods sign before every battle that knows exactly and the land of the enemy.Well in our days this sounds like an X-File scenario.For a time traveler those things are very easy, like flying 100 ears ago was just a fiction.I write this to share my thoughts with others because maybe this way we end up in something intresting!
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Right....let's see here...Yep! I can fly with this!
Prior to "becoming" Alexander, our time traveller visited Athens, encouraging the residents to trust to a wooden wall of ships. Having convinced a reluctant Greek fleet to stay, fight and win and - knowing he'd be needed elsewhere - he managed to seriously upset the Spartans, raise the jealousy of "his" fellow citizens and disappeared into exile (having arranged for "his" bones to be buried in Asia) only to re-appear as Jason of Pherae.
Here's where it becomes interesting. Finally he has his sights set on all of Greece and the "East". Realising that the real action was taking place to the north GÇô and that the real chance of taking the East rested on developments there GÇô our traveller arranged his "assassination" taking on the part of Alexander (he's very good at this GÇô something to with arranging the timeline, alternate universes et al) just in time to arrange his elevation to father's place for the invasion that we've all come to love (obsess?) and know.
The rest, as they say, isGǪ
Yeah. It doesn't really do it for me either. But then, I'm no novelist. Possibilities though GÇô something along the lines of Moorcock's "Behold The Man"? [ http://www.novymir.com.au/terminalcafe/karl.html #Behold%20the%20Man]
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Hi Mike, I feel you may have underestimated Macedonian and Greek familiarity with the East. It should be noted, the Eastern Greeks had settled along the western Anatolian coastline well and truly by the eighth and seventh century B.C., and arguably, earlier settlements may have occurred anywhere as far back as the fourteenth century B.C.The presence of Greeks artisans as well as transporters of raw materials to Persian palatial centers is attested to through various Persian inscriptions dating back to the close of the sixth century B.C.Macedon itself had been under Persian vassalage during the reign of Amyntas and his son Alexander I. Persians and their subordinates had contact, as well as having frequented the Argead court for close on a century and a half prior to Philips planned invasion of Asia.To suggest Alexander and his army of Macedones had no knowledge of Asia and its geography, is incorrect. Whilst it may be argued, the topography of the Near East may not have been common knowledge to your average 'Joe Blow', I'm rather certain those that may have had an interest, such as an invading army, would have had plenty of resources to draw from.Cheers!
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Actually Alexander came from the "E" of "Bo-otis" star in the "Alpha of Centaur" constelation where the ancestors of the greeks are living, who settled down on the greek territoty in earth (Apollo landed with his chariot in Eleusis) tens of thousands of years ago.
Alexander was incarnated in this earth given all the characteristics that made him what he was in his dna structure. How does this sound?better? ;p
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No, that can't be. The time travellers sent the genetic info back in time, just happened to pick Alexander, and took great pains to pre-program him with instructions (presemably, in placebo) on how to conquer the world. Then, the genetic coding was infused into the green algae of Mexican corn where, presumably, it would not undergo significant mutatation so they could eat it again later on. This just keeps getting more fun as we go!later Nicator
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Perhaps it is all to do with death. The death of the time traveller automatically moves him on?Was That really Epominondas who died at Mantinea in 362?? Caesar stabbed in 44?? Here again are some - large in history - who flamed across the firmanent and moved on...Believe I shall wait for the surviving Pythons to film their Alexander epic..."The Life of Andrew"."He's no kindly King of the world and uniter of cultures; he's just a vicious little sod!"
That should put it all to rest.Bert.
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