The Role of Jews

[Cyrus]

Did Jews support Persians against Alexander?President of Iran: "Jews throughout the country have always acted as pillars of defending the Iranian nationality and its culture and civilization. Jews have been living in Iran for 2700 years now." ( http://www.victoria.indymedia.org/news/ ... me=default )President of Israel: "My family lived in Iran for over 2,500 years," he said. "We absorbed the Persian culture and mentality, and we nurture in our hearts very warm feelings for Iran's history and culture." ( http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96339,00.html )

[a spiropoulos]

hii think the answer has to be no. the jewish people
dispersed in the world, are jewish first, and the country of birth second. it states god shall gather his people from the whole world to his chosen land, and i believe this has happened and is continuing to happen. when alexander entered jerusalem, he embraced their
culture and faith.
the jewish records have a record of this"
The only historical event connecting Alexander the Great with
the Jews is his visit to Jerusalem, which is recorded by Josephus
in a somewhat fantastic manner.
According to "Ant." xi. 8, -º-º 4-6, Alexander went to Jerusalem
after having taken Gaza. Jaddua, the high priest,
had a warning from God received in a dream,
in which he saw himself vested in a purple robe,
with his miter?that had the golden plate on which the name of God was
engraved?on his head. Accordingly he went to meet Alexander
at Sapha ("View" [of the Temple]).
Followed by the priests,
all clothed in fine linen, and by a multitude of citizens,
Jaddua awaited the coming of the king.
When Alexander saw the high priest,
he reverenced God (Lev. R. xiii., end), and saluted Jaddua;
while the Jews with one voice greeted Alexander. "

Also my greek chap book states this also,from the pseudo-callisthenes, called the text,click

http://www.geocities.com/losalexspirop/ ... ext.jpgthe pages on jerusalem are http://www.geocities.com/losalexspirop/ ... -f.htmlthe only difference my chapbook states, it was jeremiah who led the procession, and the stones of joshua, not a plate with the words god sabaoth(lord of hosts)he ordered his army to inter marry, and allowed
the jewish culture to remain in tack, done to none other that he conquered.
Of interest the word The name "Byblos" became the Greek word for "papyrus scroll"
or "book". The Greek alphabet evolved into the Etruscan,
Latin and Cyrillic alphabets. The English word "Bible"
is derived from "Byblos".
note name on index page is not these, but the text, lost verse verse of attributed to pseudo-callisthenes. the only ones that would have fought alexander were those still loyal to darius and resenting cross-marriages, and fearing porus might darius friend.as

[beausefaless]

This is a very poor & crude way to get modern day Iran propaganda on this forum!

Did Jews support Persians against Alexander? Answer, *no* so back-off of these good people. All they want is to be left alone.

Alexander saved Christianity! Persians tried to destroy it!

[agesilaos]

Bizarre since Alexander pre-dates Christ by 300 years! There were Jews in the Persian army, I believe there is a tablet recording the service details of one such in Asia Minor in the early fourth Century but Judah and Israel do not seem to have bothered him. Arrian records the appointment of Lysimachos' brother Antimachos as satrap but he was burned alive by the Samaritans soon after, they were an unimportant people at the time and Josephus is merely claiming a place in history for them; his record is later fiction.

[stavros]

Jews fighting ATG in Iran?? However, the greeks did opress the jews long after ATG death. e.g. 'Hannukah' the rededication of the Temple of Jerusalem in 165bc. ATG diadochi (successors) and army destroyed it during a certain war with the Jews. The Jews did rebel against the Greeks at the time with success, hence why Hannukah is celebrated by the Jews, meaning the defeat of the Greeks. The ancient 'Torah' was also taken from the Jews by ATG succesors and ordered to be translated into Greek in which it was. However the translation in Greek does no represent the true 'Torah'.cheersStavros

[beausefaless]

As the typical slave scenario, then after 'how long' they were free to stay or go back to their home land, most of them went back, a good part that stayed blended in. Check out the history of these people and you'll learn how and why. The Jews fought bravely against the diadochi and later their stand against Romans at Masada was a masterpiece of deception to keep women and children from Roman brutality.

[kenny]

Im basically with Andrew where it comes to Jew bashing,, its out of date and unwarrented,, I really dont see what these guys did or do wrong that some nations hate them so much.Maybe they should be congratulated in there brotherhood,the way they can look after themselves and make something of themselves,, All elements of races would have fought against Alexander but im sure the jews as a whole accepted and were treated very well by him.It amaizes me just how unified the Arab nations are in condemning Israel yet at the same time opress there people and do little to help any of there neighbours,,, They basically watch out for number one and care little for anyone else.Its time Israel was stopped been used as and excuse for killing and war, get round a table and sort it out.
Kenny

[Cyrus]

"This is a very poor & crude way to get modern day Iran propaganda on this forum!"What do you mean? Iran or just these ignorant Mullahs?Iran has been always the second home of the Jews and she has still the second largest Jewish population in the Asia after Israel, just in Tehran there more than 26 active Synagogues and many other Jewish buildings such as "Sapir Hospital" which is one of the largest hospitals in Iran."Did Jews support Persians against Alexander? Answer, *no* so back-off of these good people. All they want is to be left alone."Jews are really good people because I have myself some good Jewish friends but why do you think that they want to be left alone?!

Alexander saved Christianity! Persians tried to destroy it!

I'm sure you don't know that founder of the Persian empire, as it is written in Ezra, c. I and Isaiah, c. 44-45, as well as in the last Chapter of Kings, has been given the titles of Shibban and Messiah by God, which even the prophets do not have.Meanwhile Alexander lived hundreds years before christ.

[ruthaki]

Andrew, "Christianity" didn't exist in Alexander's time.
It seems to me that the Jewish people (many who had lived in Babylonia for years)always managed to stay 'neutral' in these wars. For instance, during the invasions of the Ottoman Turks they were kind of caught in the middle and left alone. I believe this was because the Ottomans (Muslim) couldn't practice usuary and the Jews could and therefore were the ones who held the purse-strings, banking, and businesses.
Plus, I agree...why are we dragging these people into the Iranian situation of present day?

[beausefaless]

2700 years ago the Jews were taken from their home land

[beausefaless]

All right maybe I shouldn't use the word Christianity but the profits of the old religion proclaimed the coming of Christ and during Alexander's time, please correct me if I'm wrong which I doubt, they believed in the *one* god. Don't you think I know what BC means (before Christ) or BCE. (before common era). Date of birth of Alexander III (356 BC or BCE)Even the Greeks had a temple to worship the one unknown god. They believed in covering their asses just in case they were wrong about the other gods.

[beausefaless]

I was not speaking of the Jewish folks that relocated everywhere by choice during early Persian rule but I have a feeling you were.
Take care Cyrus, I wish you the best.

[Kit]

The Orphic cult also believed in some form of life after death, which was a most un-Hades like idea for a Greek!Kit.