just worried about one thing

[luisfc1972]

the only thing im worried about (i dont have anything against gay or bisexual people) is stones portrayal of alexander as alexander the flaming homo rather than alexander the great warrior king. plus, everything ive read so far about this movie, he seems to make alexander a little bit too vulnerable, conflicted, weak. (crying too often comes to mind). a man who can inspire his troops the way he did must be pretty damn strong and aggressive.

[ruthaki]

I understand he did weep quite often (really!)
And all this bantering about the homosexual question is really starting to bug me. I wish they'd quit equating today's morality with yesterday's.

[iskander_32]

RuthMaybe the homodsexual stuff is becoming irirating and as you say people should equate it tonthe times Alexander was around,,, Unfortunately with the low level of inteligence and consontaration of the average viewer they will not.I can just hear the ramarks from the gay bashers ie;Alexander the queer
Bumbasher
puff
Shirt lifter then the underhanded jokes.I maintain there were other things more imnportant Stone to spend his time on.He seems to have gone for the contreversy to put bums on seats ands to sell, Its a great shame that the Greatest strory ever told about Alexander The Great will be overshadowed by controversy.The mpovie will do nothing to make people interested in our guy.
Kenny

[Linda]

i think Stone eprobably wanted to portray things as he thought they were, but, again, because of different and conflictign cultures in our times, he just got (perhaps - haven't seen it yet) the tone wrong. However, we shouldn't be so worried - if people choose to be that small-minded, then that should be ignored. It is as ignorant as people shouting monkey chants at black footballers. The sadness is that people should be outraged at someone being bisexual and a warrior, and that is their ignorance and childishness. Any reporting here I have heard it the UK has been about the controversy (ie the Greeks creating a fuss - don't they know their own history - how Athens was saved from the tyrants) - not about the portrayal. I am more worried if peopel just think Alexander was not a facscinating person who lived in incredible times - but a wee Irish bloke in a wig, shouting and making goo-goo eyes...Oh - I woudl be keen to meet up - what about Edinburgh ? :)I'd love to go to the British Museum in The spring - If you arrange something in Bristol, I might be able to get a cheap flight if it is in the afternoon?

Linda

[f9bob]

It is not at all Stone guilty,he is making entertantment(money)creating "Ancient" miror for World today.And where is this moral christian value in today world .I cannot see that thing,from street prostitutes,gay bars,porno on the net!So he is using history to make movie in what movie we are main caracters.It is historian who have to distinguish beetween ancient Paparazi and ancient news wires about Alexander.

[Halil]

In a world where hate for anyone who's different abounds and where there are far worse problems - like world poverty, hunger, disease, pollution, slavery, to name just a few - isn't it time that people got a grip and started tackling issues that matter and that can really make a difference in the *quality* of people's lives? Of course, red light districts create crime areas, but what really creates red light districts? It isn't lack of religion, it's lack of a decent living standard for *everyone*, it's hate for those who are different that forces them to go "underground". None of it is about sex, it's about power and keeping people scared and hungry so those in power can keep it all for themselves. Everything else they try to scare you with is just a rattle to keep your attention away from them and what they're doing to the world.I realize that this is an off-topic posting, but all this anti-gay stuff is getting to me too. I was hoping to go watch a movie, now I'm going into yet another controversy, which is going to be built into yet another thing to bash gays with.And Andrew Chugg, if you can get anyone to go look at those bones right now, you could probably find out if they were Alexander's immediately - because right now, he'll be turning in his grave.(The above is a joke and not intended to hurt Andrew whose book I am looking forward to reading. Feeling better for this small rant - please forgive in advance.)Cheers
Halil

[S]

Greetings All,First, I am *still* laughing at the "turning in his grave".. Second, morality existed in the pre-Christian world (and in non-Christian nations today); this is not a new invention by Christians. What differs is the definition of morality. Gods know, the Christians have done their share of *truly* immoral things, such as the Inquisition, gender oppression, racial discrimination, plundering of lands and goods, land grabs, promotion of war for gain, murder, deceit, etc throughout history - indeed, *no* religion can guarantee "morality" in its followers. Too many people seem to focus on the sexual aspect of human life, try to force it into a simple "black and white" world. As a supporter of the theory of the sexual continuum, I think it a moot point in the first place, given that orientation has no affect on drive, ambition, accomplishment, capability, ability, intelligence, heroism, honour, integrity, etc. It is simply *not* that important in the grand scheme of human accomplishment. But attacking people- and finding scapegoats- is always easier than attacking policies, programs and social cultures and conditions that create great poverty, servitude, wage slavery, racial and gender inequities, illness, and that feed the worst in each of us rather than compel us towards the best in each of us.Alexander's sexual behaviours fit his world; his morality (sexual and otherwise) was of his own time, not this one. Indeed, as I have said before and referencing back to Kenny's post on time travel, many people of today who claim to admire Alexander might well find, if they were to meet him, a much different man than they had constructed- and one they would find difficult to accept due to their own artifical construct. Regards,
Sikander

[jan]

Small people make bad jokes, and it is true that there is gay bashing going on with this Alexander movie coming out. Even on military history online when it was stated that Stone was making a movie on Alexander, someone was so crude as to make jokes about Queen Alexander. Just consider the source! Each and every opinion based upon fact will not change one iota, no matter what any moviemaker films. Lord knows, when I was teaching I was called every name in the book, and had more lies told about me than Linda Ronstadt had claimed to have had told about her. It just goes with the territory, and intelligent people search the truth for themselves, don't they?