Re: A question for Archaeologists!

smittysmitty · Post by **smittysmitty** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:08 am

Hi Karl,thanks for that.I'm trying to grasp what is meant when modern historians state, the archaeology of Macedon, often reflects Homeric aspects, values etc. Are they saying fourth century Macedon, as an example, archaeologicaly, displays 'Hellenic IIIc' culture?Or is it being said, that 'Hellenic IIIc' culture is noted in Macedon C800 B.C?cheers!

marcus · Post by **marcus** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:59 am

Strictly speaking it's "Late Helladic" rather than "Late Hellenic". It might seem trivial ... but one doesn't want pompous archaeologists sneering at one, does one? :-)All the bestMarcus

agesilaos · Post by **agesilaos** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:40 am

Quite so Marcus and some might say Troy was attacked in LHIIIB, however Smitty really what is meant by 'Homeric' in a Macedonian context and in that case it is that the social order presented in the poems is reflected in the archaeology ie. petty chieftans, companionship emphasis on martial skills etc which probably reflects the state of Homer's own time more than that of Agamemnon with its Palace bureauocracy.

smittysmitty · Post by **smittysmitty** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:59 am

I had been reading a paper presented by Elizabeth Carney titled 'Artifice and Alexander History' and she states "As archaeology offers increasing proof, the Macedonian elite in the fourth century either retained or recreated many aspects of Homeric values". I'm a little stumped as to how archaeology manages to do so!Unfortunately she cites discussion from two other modern sources which I have not read on the above matter and makes no attempt to clarify the statement. ( Don't you just hate when they do that).Dedicates X amount of time and space to how 'moderns'accept Alexander's emulation of Achilles,(again with out any particular supporting evidence; and it's just accepted by the reader that what she says is 'as a matter of fact' hmmmm!Simply, no qualification at all in what she presents! And funnily enough, the symposium she presents this paper at is titled Alexander the Great in Fact and Fiction. You gotta wonder how these academics got where they did!