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- Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:34 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
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Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
Ah, but the Hegelochus business did not become public knowledge in Egypt - the first we ever hear about it is during Philotas' trial (and, remember, only in Curtius). I meant what Arrian wrote (and I already quoted it before): Here also Alexander discovered the conspiracy of Philotas , son of Parme...
- Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:11 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
If that account is true, I take it as further evidence that Parmenion was planning to kill Alexander. And even though it became public in Egypt that doesn't mean Parmenion couldn't be planning to kill Alexander before. In fact, there was no surprise or opposition from Parmenion when Hegelochus told...
- Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:56 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
The problem is, that you are not providing any evidence. I produced source material that contradicted your source material ... then you just say "and then Parmenion changed his mind" or some such. Obviously you are perfected entitled to your interpretation of events, but you have to subst...
- Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:48 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
That was long after Issus and other battles. Parmenion had no reason to support Darius anymore. But that doesn't mean he abandoned his plan to assassinate Alexander. Especially after his son Nicanor died. It would have been too long to quote the whole of your last post. The problem is, that you are...
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:47 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
So I hypothesize that Parmenion wanted to kill Alexander before Issus because he wasn't sure who was stronger, the Persians or the Macedonians. Also, Parmenion probably didn't like Alexander's risky tactics which might have endangered his sons Philotas and Nicanor. Parmenion probably made a secret ...
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:29 am
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
Oh, well done! Good shout.AdamKvanta wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 8:18 am Very interesting, thanks. I found the translation of Oxyrhynchus LXXI 4808 here: https://archive.org/details/oxyrhynchus ... 6/mode/2up
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:45 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
Still, I wonder why it was called obscure in Curtius. Didn't Alexander's physicians know about pneumonia and shaking chills? Now that I cannot tell you! :-) Quick search - apparently they did! (https://www.gideononline.com/blogs/pneumonia/) However, we might remember that our sources were written m...
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:44 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
Now that I cannot tell you!AdamKvanta wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:07 pm Still, I wonder why it was called obscure in Curtius. Didn't Alexander's physicians know about pneumonia and shaking chills?
- Sat Jun 01, 2024 6:43 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
Interesting. It's possible but on what arguments has it been long accepted? Was his memory blackened in all sources? I'm skeptical... The short answer is "no", it wasn't blackened in all sources. The sources we have which paint Parmenion in a negative light are generally considered to hav...
- Fri May 31, 2024 7:44 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
And finally, did Alexander have pneumonia at Tarsus? I don't think so. According to Arrian, Alexander had convulsions and pneumonia doesn't cause convulsions. According to Curtius, it was an obscure illness and there is no report that anybody else was affected, only Alexander. Well, apparently pneu...
- Fri May 31, 2024 5:27 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
Alexander trusted Parmenion completely. While he was in Bactria/Sogdiana, he left Parmenion in Ecbatana in control of his supply lines, with the Treasury, and 10,000 troops. The worry was, what would Parmenion do when Philotas was executed. Philotas had 6,000 cavalry in his command, and if Parmenio...
- Fri May 31, 2024 11:53 am
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1018
Re: Alexander the Great fell ill at Tarsus (all sources)
But there was a report that Darius tried to poison him. And this is what I think happened. He was poisoned but not by Philip the Acarnanian. He was probably poisoned by Parmenion. I'd rather make a new thread about this. I think we need to see some detailed reasoning behind this to believe a furthe...
- Tue May 28, 2024 6:30 pm
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander's Last Days: Chronological Source Rearrangement (without the poison narrative and the romances)
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1662
Re: Alexander's Last Days: Chronological Source Rearrangement (without the poison narrative and the romances)
Doctor Mario Bertolotti (La critica medica nella storia. Alessandro Magno, Torino, Fratelli Bocca editori, 1930, p. 356 s.) wrote: "Come potremo noi valutare, a distanza di secoli, le condizioni fisiologiche di quell'uomo in quell'istante [scil. Alexander before his last illness]? Supponiamo c...
- Mon May 27, 2024 5:31 pm
- Forum: Comments, help, suggestions etc
- Topic: New website - opinion
- Replies: 4
- Views: 293
Re: New website - opinion
I have been working on a new front page for the website. Please could you take a look and give me your opinion and any comments or suggestions. https://pothos.org/contentnew/index.html . It doesn't look too bad on my phone! Do you think it is too flashy? Do you think it will attract new members? I ...
- Sat May 25, 2024 9:07 am
- Forum: Discuss Alexander the Great
- Topic: Alexander's Last Days: Chronological Source Rearrangement (without the poison narrative and the romances)
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1662
Re: Alexander's Last Days: Chronological Source Rearrangement (without the poison narrative and the romances)
Having said that, I don't think it follows that Antipater was recalled at the same time that Craterus set out, so he hadn't necessarily had a year to plot Alexander's death. Of course we don't know exactly what happened, but it is possible that Craterus was actually sent with Antipater's recall pap...