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I am starting a new thread from a discussion that has been proceeding on the ‘Hypaspist Uniform ‘ thread, which true to form has branched like something from Quatermass into some interesting (I hope) side lines.

The discussion concerns what happened to the ‘Basilikoi Paides’ once they had reached the age to leave that group. For that reason I will start with the ‘Paides’ as there is a lot of confusion in the literature and some downright lies from authors who should know better.

The most culpable is the ever imaginative N G L Hammond in his 1990 paper ‘Royal Pages, Personal Pages, and Boys Trained in the Macedonian Manner during the Period of the Temenid Monarchy’ in Historia 39, pp 261-290 (available free to read online at JSTOR). He collects a lot of the available evidence but ignores those pieces that do not suit his thesis.

On the age range of the Corps, he is sound; setting the final age group at 17-18, 18 being the age that boys attained their majority and he cites the examples of both Philip V and Alexander of Molossia ascending the throne at that age. The entry age was ‘puberty’ as stated by Arrian, though he is over pedantic in making that 14 since he wants the whole course to run four years, more likely the entry was based on physical maturity. He unfortunately garbles Curtius’ notice at V 1 xlii misunderstanding ‘liberos adultos’ as meaning boys just about to enter adulthood rather than boys quitting childhood for adolescence. That these were NOT the last age group, 17-18 is immediately clear; the group arrives at Babylon in late 331 yet the Pages Conspiracy is not until 327, is it in the least bit credible that these were 21 year olds? No, it is credible that they had served four years and were approaching ‘graduation’, however. They were still of an age when slaves could beat them, though and so cannot have attained any legal rights, which in Athens happened at 16 when boys became kyrioi and could transact business in their own right, in Macedon the transition may have been later but certainly no later than 18, when royal power could be assumed. If we assume Amyntas brought out the youngest group, then we have entry at between 12 and 14, which would match with Arrian’s onset of puberty.

This age bracket coincides with the age when homosexual relationships were permitted in Athens and the function of the Pages was certainly seen as a ready supply of young thighs. Greek writers assume that membership meant sexual relations with the king and accuse Philip of seducing Alexander of Epeiros as well as the two Pausaniases. Aelian VH XIV 48 specifically defends Philip from charges of sexual abuse,
ὅτι Φίλιππος τῶν ἐν Μακεδονίᾳ δοκιμωτάτων τοὺς υἱεῖς παραλαμβάνων περὶ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ θεραπείαν εἶχεν, οὔτι πού φασιν ἐνυβρίζων αὐτοῖς οὐδὲ ἐξευτελίζων, ἀλλ᾽ ἐκ τῶν ἐναντίων καρτερικοὺς αὐτοὺς ἐκπονῶν καὶ ἑτοίμους πρὸς τὸ τὰ δέοντα πράττειν ἀποφαίνων.

Note that Philip took the sons of the leading Macedonian families into his personal service, not intending (so they say) to insult (ἐνυβρίζων) or demean(ἐξευτελίζων) them, but on the contrary training them to be fit and ensuring that they would be ready for action.’ Wilson, Loeb
The verbs here are translated somewhat tamely, ἐνυβρίζων enhubrizwn, means ‘to outrage’ and is used as a euphemism for rape, whilst ἐξευτελίζων, exeutelizwn means ‘to reduce’ and so ‘humiliate’ would serve better; the sexual implications are clear enough.

The duties of the pages are laid out twice by Curtius and once by Arrian:
IV 13 i
ἐκ Φιλίππου ἦν ἤδη καθεστηκὸς τῶν ἐν τέλει Μακεδόνων τοὺς παῖδας ὅσοι ἐς ἡλικίαν ἐμειρακιεύοντο καταλέγεσθαι ἐς θεραπείαν τοῦ βασιλέως, τά τε περὶ τὴν ἄλλην δίαιταν τοῦ σώματος διακονεῖσθαι βασιλεῖ καὶ κοιμώμενον φυλάσσειν τούτοις ἐπετέτραπτο. καὶ ὁπότε ἐξελαύνοι βασιλεύς, τοὺς ἵππους παρὰ τῶν ἱπποκόμων δεχόμενοι ἐκεῖνοι προσῆγον καὶ ἀνέβαλλον οὗτοι βασιλέα τὸν Περσικὸν τρόπον καὶ τῆς ἐπὶ θήρᾳ φιλοτιμίας βασιλεῖ κοινωνοὶ ἦσαν

IT was a custom current in Philip’s day, that the sons of those Macedonians who had enjoyed high office, should, as soon as they reached the age of puberty, be selected to attend the king’s court. These youths were entrusted with the general attendance on the king’s person and the protection of his body while he was asleep. Whenever the king rode out, some of them received the horses from the grooms, and brought them to him, and others assisted him to mount in the Persian fashion. They were also partners of the king in the emulation of the chase
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Curtius V 1 xlii
42 Idem Amyntas adduxerat L principum Macedoniae liberos adultos ad custodiam corporis: quippe inter epulas hi sunt regis ministri iidemque equos ineuntibus proelium admovent venantesque comitantur et vigiliarum vices ante cubiculi fores servant: magnorumque praefectorum et ducum haec incrementa sunt et rudimenta.

The same Amyntas had brought fifty liberos adultos of Macedonia’s chief men for a body-guard: for these wait upon the kings at table, bring them their horses when they go into battle, attend them at the chase, and stand guard in turn before the doors of their bedroom; and these duties are the novitiate and training-school of great prefects and generals
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Curtius VIII 6 ii
Mos erat, ut supra dictum est, principibus Macedonum adultos liberos regibus tradere ad munia haud multum servilibus ministeriis abhorrentia. 3 Excubabant servatis noctium vicibus proximi foribus eius aedis, in qua rex adquiescebat. Per hos pelices introducebantur alio aditu, quam quem armati obsidebant. 4 Iidem acceptos ab agasonibus equos, cum rex ascensurus esset, admovebant comitabanturque et venantem et in proeliis omnibus, artibus studiorum liberalium exculti. 5 Praecipuus honor habebatur, quod licebat sedentibus vesci cum rege. Castigandi eos verberibus nullius potestas praeter ipsum erat. 6 Haec cohors velut seminarium ducum praefectorumque apud Macedonas fuit: hinc habuere posteri reges, quorum stirpi post multas aetates Romani opes ademerunt.

It was the custom, as was said before, for the leading men of the Macedonians to entrust their sons to the king on their coming of age for duties not very different to the services of slaves. They kept watch at night in turn close to the doors of the room in which the king slept. By these youths concubines were brought in by a different entrance from that before which armed guards were posted. They also received horses from the grooms, brought them to the reigning king when he was about to mount and accompanied him in the chase and in battle, besides being thoroughly trained in all the accomplishments of liberal studies. The special honour was paid them of being allowed to sit at table with the king. No one had the power of chastising them with flogging except the king himself. This troupe among the Macedonians was a kind of training school for generals and governors of provinces; from these also their posterity had the kings from whose stock after many ages the Romans took away all power.
One thing to notice is that the Pages are distinguished in this last passage from the ‘armed guards’, implying that they themselves were unarmed. It is only here that the claim that the Pages fought with the king occurs. Previously in Curtius they bring the king his horse when he is going into battle but it is not stated that they join him. Nor does Arrian go beyond them collecting his horse from the grooms and helping him mount. The best way to resolve this is to look at those occasions when the Pages are stated to have fought.

Diodoros XVII 36 v

οἱ δὲ τοῦ βασιλέως παῖδες καταλαβόμενοι τὴν τοῦ Δαρείου σκηνὴν τἀκείνου λουτρὰ καὶ δεῖπνα παρεσκευάζοντο καὶ λαμπάδων πολλὴν πυρὰν ἅψαντες προσεδέχοντο τὸν Ἀλέξανδρον, ὅπως ἀπὸ τοῦ διωγμοῦ γενόμενος καὶ καταλαβὼν ἑτοίμην πᾶσαν τὴν παρασκευὴν τοῦ Δαρείου οἰωνίσηται τὴν ὅλην τῆς Ἀσίας ἡγεμονίαν

The royal pages now took over the tent of Dareios and prepared Alexander's bath and dinner and, lighting a great blaze of torches, waited for him, that he might return from the pursuit and, finding ready for him all the riches of Dareios, take it as an omen for his conquest of the empire of all Asia.
Clearly the Pages here are NOT fighting with Alexander who is away in pursuit of the enemy, they merely take over the tent of Dareios and make a bath ready, the sort of therapeia that was their duty.

The only other instance where they are named as part of a fighting force is in the emergency at Zariaspa/Baktra in 328 at Arrian IV 16
He also sent Coenus and Artabazus into Scythia, because he was informed that Spitamenes had fled for refuge thither; but he himself with the rest of his army traversed Sogdiana and easily reduced all the places still held by the rebels.
While Alexander was thus engaged, Spitamenes, accompanied by some of the Sogdianian exiles, fled into the land of the Scythians called Massagetians, and having collected floo horsemen from this nation, he came to one of the forts in Bactriana. Falling upon the commander of this fort, who was not expecting any hostile demonstration, and upon those who were keeping guard with him, he destroyed the soldiers, and capturing the commander, kept him in custody. Being emboldened by the capture of this fort, a few days after he approached Zariaspa; but resolving not to attack the city, he marched away after collecting a great quantity of booty. But at Zariaspa a few of the Companion cavalry had been left behind on the score of illness, and with them Peithon, son of,Sosicles, who had been placed over the royal household of attendants at Zariaspa, and Aristonicus the harper. These men, hearing of the incursion of the Scythians, and having now recovered from their illness, took their arms and mounted their horses. Then collecting eighty mercenary Grecian horsemen, who had been left behind to guard Zariaspa, and some of the royal pages, they sallied forth against the Massagetians. Falling upon the Scythians, who had no suspicion of such an event, they deprived them of all the booty at the first onset, and killed many of those who were driving it off. But as no one was in command, they returned without any regard to order: and being drawn into an ambush by Spitamenes and other Scythians, they lost seven of the Companions and sixty of the mercenary cavalry. Aristonicus the harper was also slain there, having proved himself a brave man, beyond what might have been expected of a harper. Peithon, being wounded, was taken prisoner by the Scythians.


[3]…Κοῖνον δὲ καὶ Ἀρτάβαζον ὡς ἐς Σκύθας, ὅτι ἐς Σκύθας καταπεφευγέναι Σπιταμένης αὐτῷ ἐξηγγέλλετο, αὐτὸς δὲ ξὺν τῇ λοιπῇ στρατιᾷ ἐπιὼν τῆς Σογδιανῆς ὅσα ἔτι πρὸς τῶν ἀφεστηκότων κατείχετο ταῦτα οὐ χαλεπῶς ἐξῄρει. [4] ἐν τούτοις δὲ Ἀλεξάνδρου ὄντος Σπιταμένης τε καὶ σὺν αὐτῷ τῶν Σογδιανῶν τινες φυγάδων ἐς τῶν Σκυθῶν τῶν Μασσαγετῶν καλουμένων τὴν χώραν ξυμπεφευγότες ξυναγαγόντες τῶν Μασσαγετῶν ἱππέας ἑξακοσίους ἀφίκοντο πρός τι φρούριον τῶν κατὰ τὴν Βακτριανήν. [5] καὶ τῷ τε φρουράρχῳ οὐδὲν πολέμιον προσδεχομένῳ ἐπιπεσόντες καὶ τοῖς ξὺν τούτῳ τὴν φυλακὴν ἔχουσιν τοὺς μὲν στρατιώτας διέφθειραν, τὸν φρούραρχον δὲ ἑλόντες ἐν φυλακῇ εἶχον. θαρσήσαντες δὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ φρουρίου τῇ καταλήψει ὀλίγαις ἡμέραις ὕστερον Ζαριάσποις πελάσαντες τῇ μὲν πόλει προσβαλεῖν ἀπέγνωσαν, λείαν δὲ πολλὴν περιβαλλόμενοι ἤλαυνον. [6] ἦσαν δὲ ἐν τοῖς Ζαριάσποις νόσῳ ὑπολελειμμένοι τῶν ἑταίρων ἱππέων οὐ πολλοὶ καὶ ξὺν τούτοις Πείθων τε ὁ Σωσικλέους, ἐπὶ τῆς βασιλικῆς θεραπείας τῆς ἐν Ζαριάσποις τεταγμένος, καὶ Ἀριστόνικος ὁ κιθαρῳδός. καὶ οὗτοι αἰσθόμενοι τῶν Σκυθῶν τὴν καταδρομήν ῾ἤδη γὰρ ἐκ τῆς νόσου ἀναρρωσθέντες ὅπλα τε ἔφερον καὶ τῶν ἵππων ἐπέβαινον᾽ ξυναγαγόντες τούς τε μισθοφόρους ἱππέας ἐς ὀγδοήκοντα, οἳ ἐπὶ φυλακῇ τῶν Ζαριάσπων ὑπολελειμμένοι ἦσαν, καὶ τῶν παίδων τινὰς τῶν βασιλικῶν ἐκβοηθοῦσιν ἐπὶ τοὺς Μασσαγέτας. [7] καὶ τῇ μὲν πρώτῃ προσβολῇ οὐδὲν ὑποτοπήσασι τοῖς Σκύθαις ἐπιπεσόντες τήν τε λείαν ξύμπασαν ἀφείλοντο αὐτοὺς καὶ τῶν ἀγόντων τὴν λείαν οὐκ ὀλίγους ἀπέκτειναν. ἐπανιόντες δὲ αὐτοὶ ἀτάκτως, ἅτε οὐδενὸς ἐξηγουμένου, ἐνεδρευθέντες πρὸς Σπιταμένους καὶ τῶν Σκυθῶν τῶν μὲν ἑταίρων ἀποβάλλουσιν ἑπτά, τῶν δὲ μισθοφόρων ἱππέων ἑξήκοντα. καὶ Ἀριστόνικος ὁ κιθαρῳδὸς αὐτοῦ ἀποθνήσκει, οὐ κατὰ κιθαρῳδὸν ἀνὴρ ἀγαθὸς γενόμενος. πείθων δὲ τρωθεὶς ζῶν λαμβάνεται πρὸς τῶν Σκυθῶν
The Pages here are not with Alexander who is campaigning but are at a base camp along with convalescents and Court Entertainers. Some of them (tinas) ride out to battle, presumably the elder age cohort(s) making it unlikely that any are serving with Alexander.

As an aside this strengthens E Carney’s suspicions ('The Role of the Basilikoi paides at the Argaead Court' in Macedonian Legacies: Studies in Ancient Macedonian History and Culture in Honor of Eugene N. Borza
Timothy Howe (Editor), Jeanne Reames ) that the underlying cause for Hermolaos’ violent reaction was that Alexander was denying his manhood, this would be even more the case if Hermolaos and co had recently killed their men in this ambush of the Scythians then by killing his boar Hermolaos had actually become a man according to Macedonian custom, which would make the charge of ‘hubris’ levelled at Alexander quite justified.

What evidence there is, as opposed to what is inferred, shows that the Pages had no active military function, they were non-combatants except in extremis. This means that those occasions which refer to combat situations do not refer to the Pages.

In Curtius the ‘iuvenes’ of these passages are typically ‘noblissimi’ and that links these men with the Royal pages who are termed ‘pueri noblissimi’ at VIII 6 vii and X 5 viii. The natural conclusion is that the pueri grew into the iuvenes.

In Arrian there is a body who are called ‘hetairoi’ yet are hypaspists who may well be termed Hoi Bailikoi Hypaspistai elsewhere. Theopompos rules out this body being the ‘Pezhetairoi’ whose selection was based on stature and looks, with no rank qualification.

At the murder of Philip II three guards chase down Pausanias, Perdikkas, Leonattos and Attalos, all of whom are young nobles and probably members of this group, the concentration of noble recruits would seem hard to explain if they were not part of a solidly noble unit.

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I'm afraid I haven't read all the posts in the previous thread, nor had time yet to read Hammond's paper, so I might be repeating what has already been covered, or getting the wrong end of the stick, but you appear to be saying that upon graduation from the Pages - at about 18 - the young Macedonian nobles entered a corps made up exclusively of their peers, and that, normally, this was their first experience of fighting.

To me, this wouldn't seem to make a lot of sense from a military point of view. A unit predominantly made up of physically immature and totally inexperienced young men would be very vulnerable, and I can't think what function it could have in an engagement. It also seems to be a question of all your eggs in one basket. If something happened to that unit, and being vulnerable it likely would, a whole generation of future officers could be lost. Plus, the future career of these youths was as officers and if, after two or three years in this unit, they left to take up a junior command in the main army, they would have had had no training for such a position.

A far more natural career progression would appear to be:

- although the Pages would not have been premitted to wear a sword ordinarily, nor engage in set battles, there must have been occasions where they could gain fighting experience. Perhaps the older Pages were sent out with patrols, with (with, not in command of) foraging or scouting parties where they would have been armed and where they could gain experience without compromising a large number of men. Thus Peithon would not have had to lead out totally unblooded boys, but 'some of the Pages' who had had some experience of fighting;

- the Curtius quote says that the Pages accompanied the king in battle, not that they fought. Accompanying him in battle would give them experience of what fighting was like, but they would have been a liability to rely upon them for fighting given their inexperience. A far more likely role for them in battle was to supply the king with fresh horses and weapons, carry field dressings and act as messengers between the king and his field commanders. This would be invaluable training for them in understanding battle tactics;

- upon graduation from the Pages, it would seem likely that they would be seconded to a unit commanded by their kinsmen and made up of their tribesmen as a junior adjutant until they were deemed fit to take up a command of their own. Such a placement would mean that they would bond with the men their kinsmen would have a vested interest in seeing that they suceeded them in one day commanding. Of course, there would have been exceptions to this if the favouritism of the king or personal success intervened.

As for Perdiccas, Leonnatus and Attalus's actions (at least 2 of them being about 20 at the time), I am not sure this indicates a corps made up of noble youths. The only funtion I can think of for such a group is ceremonial or decorative to be used on such grand occasions as Phil's procession. Such a corps would have generated a competitive and idealistic ethos, a struggle to be noticed and promoted by the king, and surely we would have heard of it? Perdiccas etc's appointment as guards on the day of the procession may have been a one-off assignment, based on rank, royal favouritism, Alexander's friendship, or as a recognition of personal merit.

Perhaps a corps of noble 18-21 year olds might have guarded the king's palace, but they along would never never have been entrusted with guarding the king in battle, and to me such a corps seems a waste of young manpower and a poor training ground for future officers. It also seems too over-protective in a society where you needed to be able to hold your own at a young age because your life and your career depended upon it.
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I have yet to put everything down about this putative body but just to address your points.

You seem to be thinking more about a modern command situation where officers take on the spot decisions and influence the tactical flow of battle. This is not really the case in an ancient phalanx, which is what the Pages would be moving to. In this situation it is more a case of moral backbone than tactical aptitude, the battle plan was sorted out at the war council and the leaders followed the plan. There is no doubt concerning the bravery of the Pages, they were part of the Macedonian system of 'philotimarcheia' rivalry in Honour, they had accompanied the king on the hunt and would have been neither physically immature or inexperienced of danger. The pike phalanx was a very forgiving formation, unlike the hoplite phalanx or Roman system where one ends up toe to toe with the enemy the effect of the sarissa was to keep the pikeman distanced from his foe. One should not think that they would not have drilled,though it would take time to gel they would not present a vulnerable target, assuming the enemy could target them.

Nor are they alone, I see them as fighting within the agema probably as 1/4 of that body and, as in every other unit the better fighters would be in the foremost and rearmost ranks, the newbies would be the kernal of a very tough nut. In the three major battles, at Granikos the fight only came to the infantry when the fight became a massacre of the isolated and abandoned Greek mercenaries. At Issos the break in the Macedonian line does seem to have occured among the hypaspists and the death of Ptolemy the son of Seleukos suggests that the agema was involved (see the thread 'The break in the Macedonian line at Issos' for a full discussion). At Gaugamela, if I am right that these are the 'Basilikoi Hypaspistai' (which I have yet to argue!!) then they were withdrawn from the phalanx to act in a more skirmish role, something that their deployment in the assault on Tyre would suggest they were adept at, not suprising considering their hunting experience. It would be a line to say that the failure at issos led to their demotion, I personally see the crisis at Issos being caused by Alexander abandoning the flank of the Hypaspist corps, allowing the Greeks to come to grips with a thinned and disordered formation, and their role at Gaugamela was due to them being the best unit for the purpose and to support the grooms, with whom they would have a bond due to their recent Pagehood. This is pure hypothesis with no real evidence, however.

Alexander led from the front and seems to have issued his orders personally, if one considers the various re-deployments before Issos, this could be an artefact of the sources pre-occupation with Alexander but off hand I cannot recall an instance of Alexander sending a message to anyone, other than sending a messenger sent to him back.

Still want to re-read a couple of things before launching the second part but have a bit more about the Pages to add; and Paralus and Xenophon have yet to deploy their size 13's :D

To accompany the king in battle, especially Alexander, meant to be at the most dangerous point of the fighting;
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Before moving on to the Hypaspistai Basilkoi, I just have to conclude with a few points left over from the paides.

Whilst throughout his article Hammond refers to ‘The School of the Pages’ this is merely his way of giving them a corporate identity, others use corps, Curtius ‘cohors’; despite his later musings he does not mean that there was an actual establishment where the Pages were taught, though they were taught ‘the liberal arts’ according to Curtius this occurred in the same informal ‘lecture’ system that was common in all Greek states. The ‘School of Mieza’ where Aristotle taught Alexander and his ‘syntrophoi’ was not open to the Pages, none of the pupils there are ever attested as ‘paides’ and there would be no way that the duties of a Page could meld with those of a princely ‘syntrophos’; the relative merit of such a position would depend on the longevity of the king and the quality of the prince.

Just for the sake of completeness I must mention that there is a story of a Page placing a table under Alexander’s feet to act as a stool at Persepolis. This still falls within the ambit of a Pages ‘therepeia’ and the quasi-servile duties mentioned by Curtius.

Also we have to consider the potential pool for recruitment; Theopompos says that Philip had 800 Companions; This does not mean that there were only 800 Companion cavalry; Arrian more often speaks of the ‘Cavalry of the Companions’ we should understand a man and his entourage so that 800. Contra Ruizicka was probably a round number for Alexander’s reign as well.

We do not possess full figures but the Andromenids were three sons, Antipatrids , five’; if we assume four sons on average, there are only going to be about forty potential recruits for the Pages each year. That must mean that the pool is too small for those who theorise a larger body
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Agesilaos wrote:
and Paralus and Xenophon have yet to deploy their size 13's :D
Before donning my hob-nailed size 13's, haven't we already had this debate on the Hypaspist uniform thread ?

As Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626) put it:
The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion draws all things else to support and agree with it. And though there be a greater number and weight of instances to be found on the other side, yet these it either neglects and despises, or else by some distinction sets aside and rejects, in order that by this great and pernicious predetermination the authority of its former conclusion may remain inviolate
We simply don't have enough data about the 'paides' to arrive at anything conclusive, as illustrated by the fact that the three protagonists in the other thread held three different views - though I will cheerfully confess to modifying my views along the way as more information came to light....

So is your aim simply to examine the subject in fuller detail, or merely to re-raise your hypothesis concerning 'amph'auton hetairoi' ?
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Alexias wrote:
I'm afraid I haven't read all the posts in the previous thread, nor had time yet to read Hammond's paper, so I might be repeating what has already been covered, or getting the wrong end of the stick.................
For the short view on what was discussed about 'paides', reading the last page (7) of the Hypaspists uniform thread will give you the 'Readers Digest condensed version', and for a preview of what I suspect is to come, read page 6 also.....
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My intention was to present a fuller and more orderly diposition of things raised there but under a thread that says what it does on the tin, so there will be some re-iteration but also a better presentation ofthe ancient sources and the modern scholarly positions. I have to answer, or at least, attempt to answer the points you and Paralus raised and thought it better to continue where anyone might look for views on the Pages, which I think you will agree are a far cry from the question of 'Hypaspist Uniform'.
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Before moving on to the Hypaspistai Basilkoi, I just have to conclude with a few points left over from the paides.

Whilst throughout his article Hammond refers to ‘The School of the Pages’ this is merely his way of giving them a corporate identity, others use corps, Curtius ‘cohors’; despite his later musings he does not mean that there was an actual establishment where the Pages were taught, though they were taught ‘the liberal arts’ according to Curtius this occurred in the same informal ‘lecture’ system that was common in all Greek states. The ‘School of Mieza’ where Aristotle taught Alexander and his ‘syntrophoi’ was not open to the Pages, none of the pupils there are ever attested as ‘paides’ and there would be no way that the duties of a Page could meld with those of a princely ‘syntrophos’; the relative merit of such a position would depend on the longevity of the king and the quality of the prince.

Just for the sake of completeness I must mention that there is a story of a Page placing a table under Alexander’s feet to act as a stool at Persepolis. This still falls within the ambit of a Pages ‘therepeia’ and the quasi-servile duties mentioned by Curtius.

Also we have to consider the potential pool for recruitment; Theopompos says that Philip had 800 Companions. This does not mean that there were only 800 Companion cavalry; Arrian more often speaks of the ‘Cavalry of the Companions’ we should understand a man and his entourage so that 800 would would only need three followers to attain the strength attested under Alexander. Contra Ruizicka, 800 was probably a round number for Alexander’s reign as well.

We do not possess full figures but the Andromenids were three sons, Antipatrids , five; if we assume four sons on average we get 3,200 potential Pages over the breeding lifetime of the Companions, say 25 to 55 or thirty years so 106 potential recruits each year which would mean roughly half were chosen for duty at Court, which is sufficient slack to prevent two brothers serving at the same time if that was a rule as has been suggested (Epimenes’ brother Eurylochus, who discovers the Page’s Conspiracy to Alexander in Curtius VIII 6 xxff, seems to not be a Page but somewhat older). To posit a body larger than c200 would mean that the Macedonians were of a remarkable fecundity which seems not to be the case when one considers the population as represented in army figures, which is remarkably constant for the next two centuries with only a final floruit under Perseus after Philip V had instituted measures to drive the population up.
When you think about, it free-choice is the only possible option.
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Agesilaos wrote:
My intention was to present a fuller and more orderly diposition of things raised there but under a thread that says what it does on the tin, so there will be some re-iteration but also a better presentation o fthe ancient sources and the modern scholarly positions. I have to answer, or at least, attempt to answer the points you and Paralus raised and thought it better to continue where anyone might look for views on the Pages, which I think you will agree are a far cry from the question of 'Hypaspist Uniform'.
Good point ! If I were looking for information about the rather elusive subject of the paides, I certainly wouldn’t be looking in a thread about ‘hypaspist uniforms’, even given Pothos’ notorious lack of discipline on threads, leading to numerous digressions.......
Certainly, a detailed, and fuller examination of the subject might be considered overdue, even if much must be left to conjecture. Time to deploy the hob-nailed size 13’s, then, before this thread becomes too big to engage with............I apologise for the interpolation method, but this allows the interested reader to more easily follow the ‘flow’ of the discussion.
Agesilaos wrote:
The most culpable is the ever imaginative N G L Hammond in his 1990 paper ‘Royal Pages, Personal Pages, and Boys Trained in the Macedonian Manner during the Period of the Temenid Monarchy’ in Historia 39, pp 261-290 (available free to read online at JSTOR). He collects a lot of the available evidence but ignores those pieces that do not suit his thesis.

Oh dear.....don’t you think this might be giving a hostage to fortune ? Pot calling Kettle black? As Sir Francis Bacon pointed out, we humans rather irrationally tend to form an opinion, and then seize upon evidence to support it, ignoring that which doesn’t, rather than examine ALL the evidence, and then arrive at a view.
On the age range of the Corps, he is sound; setting the final age group at 17-18, 18 being the age that boys attained their majority and he cites the examples of both Philip V and Alexander of Molossia ascending the throne at that age.
This doesn’t follow at all....you agree with Hammond purely because it suits your forthcoming hypothesis. The fact that Kings could ascend the throne at 18 is not evidence at all for ‘majority’ in either Greece or Macedon. On this basis,it would be just as logical to argue ‘majority’ occurred at 16, because that was Alexander III’s age when he ruled Macedon as Regent for his father Philip.....and it ignores other evidence.

In fact the rules for Royalty are very different from the rest, they don’t seem ever to have been ‘epheboi’ for example – we have only to compare Spartan practise here, and of course as you point out later, the education of Alexander and his ‘syntrophoi’ under Aristotle etc was not the same as that of the ‘paides’, and was incompatible with it, just as Spartan Kings did not undergo the ‘agoge/education’ of the ‘homioi/peers/aristocracy’.

Here you are doing what you accuse Hammond of – choosing evidence selectively. You don’t take into account other evidence.

Firstly, it is likely that the Athenian 'epheboi' institution initiated circa 335 BC was based on Makedonian practise, even if the two may not have been identical. In Athens, the 19 year-old 'epheboi' were under training for a year, then were presented with arms by the State and as 20 year-olds were on full-time military service, such as outpost garrison duty - including combat if the occasion arose.

In Sparta, there was an older tradition whereby the 'epheboi' stage lasted longer, from puberty/14 -16 until 20 when the 'epheboi' underwent military training. In both cases full adulthood began at age 21.

In Makedon, according to later inscriptions, (see Hatzopoulos “Macedonian institutions”) military service (training) began at 15 ( around puberty) and continued until 55.

The 'epheboi' were the 19 and 20 year-olds, and at 21 males became adults, called 'neoi'/new men, which lasted until 30.

You earlier postulated that the obscure term 'meirakioneia' (used by Arrian just this once at IV.13.1) could refer to anyone between puberty and 20 , with which I wouldn’t disagree.**

The Greeks counted the day of one's birth as the first birthday, whereas we moderns date from completion of one's first year. Thus a Greek 'two year old' is just one by our measure, and a Greek '21 year-old' is 20 years old by our measure. I am unsure of whether particular translators of both sources and inscriptions write "21" as a literal translation, or adjust the age to our measure - one would have to check text in each case to be certain......
The entry age was ‘puberty’ as stated by Arrian, though he [Hammond] is over pedantic in making that 14 since he wants the whole course to run four years, more likely the entry was based on physical maturity.
With that I would agree. As I pointed out elsewhere, puberty these days occurs much younger than it did before the last 200 years, whereas prior to that in both boys and girls it could occur at 14 or 15 at the earliest, and as late as 17. We should therefore take puberty to mean physical maturity, occurring generally in the age range 14-16 ( and of course lasting several years ). Later, under Roman law, the earliest age for a boy to be pubescent was 14.
He unfortunately garbles Curtius’ notice at V 1 xlii misunderstanding ‘liberos adultos’ as meaning boys just about to enter adulthood rather than boys quitting childhood for adolescence.
The best translation of ‘liberos adultos’ is “grown-up children”, i.e. children on the verge of adulthood at 21, hence the 19-20 year-olds. In this instance, one would have to agree with Hammond. It should be pointed out that the concept of graduating to ‘adulthood’ at 18 is a very modern one (enfranchisement/adulthood at 18 only came to Britain in ,IIRC, 1969 and to the USA in the seventies as a result of the Vietnam War when it was felt that if conscripts were old enough to die for their country, then they should have the adult right to drink a beer and vote! Even now, many adult privileges in many states of the U.S.A. are not attained until 21)

To the ancients, one was a ‘child’ until age 21, when one ‘graduated’ to full adulthood with its responsibilities , including serving the State’s Military, and privileges as a citizen. There is really no actual positive evidence that I am aware of, for ‘graduating’ to full adulthood at 18 in the ancient Graeco-Macedonian world, as demonstrated above – even though, as you have pointed out( below), ‘partial adulthood’ at Athens could begin at 16, when a youth could enter contracts, and we have the example of Demosthenes at 18, when we see the orator at that age claiming his patrimony, bringing an action against his guardians and pleading his own cause: at this time he calls himself an ‘ephebus’(c. Onet. i. p. 868.15).

Nevertheless, full adulthood, with its rights and responsibilities, especially military, did not occur until 21. ‘Graduation’ to full adulthood at 18 is an assumption on your part, not supported by the weight of evidence which is fairly categorical that full ‘adulthood’ occurred at age 21.
That these were NOT the last age group, 17-18 is immediately clear; the group arrives at Babylon in late 331 yet the Pages Conspiracy is not until 327, is it in the least bit credible that these were 21 year olds? No, it is credible that they had served four years and were approaching ‘graduation’, however. They were still of an age when slaves could beat them, though and so cannot have attained any legal rights, which in Athens happened at 16 when boys became kyrioi and could transact business in their own right, in Macedon the transition may have been later but certainly no later than 18, when royal power could be assumed. If we assume Amyntas brought out the youngest group, then we have entry at between 12 and 14, which would match with Arrian’s onset of puberty.
What makes you think that Hermolaus arrived in 331? We are certainly not told so, simply that he was a ‘paide’. [Curtius VIII.6.7; Arrian IV.13] As I postulated in the other thread, if we use this knowledge to marry up with what other few snippets of information we have, then all falls into place. The 'paides' enter service at puberty ( around 14- 16 ), and probably train at 'school' in Macedon for several years, thus the paides can be called 'pueri' etc. On becoming 'ephebes', the senior ‘paides’ serve with the King as his innermost bodyguard, a 'unit' if you will, some 100 or so strong.

[ digression: deducible from their roster, and incidently showing that the 50 who arrived with the re-inforcements cannot have been the sum total of ‘paides’. Since there were either 7 ( Arrian IV.13) or 9 (Curtius viii.6.15) on duty at a time, on a 7 day roster , and since there were enough to supply two shifts daily, ( Curtius viii.6.18 ), this implies a total of 100 or so paides present with the King (98 if Arrian's 7 is correct, to be exact, 126 if Curtius' 9 is correct). A body of 100 or so, with some 50 becoming adults and 'graduating' each year would imply both 19 and 20 year-old age groups present with the King. This too is logical, for replacing all annually would leave no-one to teach the 'newbies' their duties etc, whereas having all the 'epheboi' (19 and 20 year-olds) present, would mean only half 'graduating' to adulthood at a time.]

These can be referred to by Curtius as a 'cohorte' ( unit), and who from their age can be called 'liberi adulti'/ grown up children, or 'noblissimi iuvenes' Thus 20 year old nobles who were still not quite adult can be called 'noblissimi iuvenes'. At the same time Kallisthenes can flatter them by calling them 'vires' - for they would be soon, on turning 21. They are most probably still part of the corps of Paides, and will be until they actually turn 21, when as ‘neoi/new men’ they graduate to the armed forces proper.
This age bracket coincides with the age when homosexual relationships were permitted in Athens and the function of the Pages was certainly seen as a ready supply of young thighs. Greek writers assume that membership meant sexual relations with the king and accuse Philip of seducing Alexander of Epeiros as well as the two Pausaniases.


...Which on balance of probability may well be Greek anti-Macedonian/anti- Philip propaganda made plausible by general Greek homo-erotic practises of older men having younger male partners, as Aelian tells us.....

Agesilaos wrote:
Aelian VH XIV 48 specifically defends Philip from charges of sexual abuse,
ὅτι Φίλιππος τῶν ἐν Μακεδονίᾳ δοκιμωτάτων τοὺς υἱεῖς παραλαμβάνων περὶ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ θεραπείαν εἶχεν, οὔτι πού φασιν ἐνυβρίζων αὐτοῖς οὐδὲ ἐξευτελίζων, ἀλλ᾽ ἐκ τῶν ἐναντίων καρτερικοὺς αὐτοὺς ἐκπονῶν καὶ ἑτοίμους πρὸς τὸ τὰ δέοντα πράττειν ἀποφαίνων.

Note that Philip took the sons of the leading Macedonian families into his personal service, not intending (so they say) to insult (ἐνυβρίζων) or demean(ἐξευτελίζων) them, but on the contrary training them to be fit and ensuring that they would be ready for action.’ Wilson, Loeb


The verbs here are translated somewhat tamely, ἐνυβρίζων enhubrizwn, means ‘to outrage’ and is used as a euphemism for rape, whilst ἐξευτελίζων, exeutelizwn means ‘to reduce’ and so ‘humiliate’ would serve better; the sexual implications are clear enough.

The duties of the pages are laid out twice by Curtius and once by Arrian:
IV 13 i
ἐκ Φιλίππου ἦν ἤδη καθεστηκὸς τῶν ἐν τέλει Μακεδόνων τοὺς παῖδας ὅσοι ἐς ἡλικίαν ἐμειρακιεύοντο καταλέγεσθαι ἐς θεραπείαν τοῦ βασιλέως, τά τε περὶ τὴν ἄλλην δίαιταν τοῦ σώματος διακονεῖσθαι βασιλεῖ καὶ κοιμώμενον φυλάσσειν τούτοις ἐπετέτραπτο. καὶ ὁπότε ἐξελαύνοι βασιλεύς, τοὺς ἵππους παρὰ τῶν ἱπποκόμων δεχόμενοι ἐκεῖνοι προσῆγον καὶ ἀνέβαλλον οὗτοι βασιλέα τὸν Περσικὸν τρόπον καὶ τῆς ἐπὶ θήρᾳ φιλοτιμίας βασιλεῖ κοινωνοὶ ἦσαν

IT was a custom current in Philip’s day, that the sons of those Macedonians who had enjoyed high office, should, as soon as they reached the age of puberty, be selected to attend the king’s court. These youths were entrusted with the general attendance on the king’s person and the protection of his body while he was asleep. Whenever the king rode out, some of them received the horses from the grooms, and brought them to him, and others assisted him to mount in the Persian fashion. They were also partners of the king in the emulation of the chase
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Curtius V 1 xlii
42 Idem Amyntas adduxerat L principum Macedoniae liberos adultos ad custodiam corporis: quippe inter epulas hi sunt regis ministri iidemque equos ineuntibus proelium admovent venantesque comitantur et vigiliarum vices ante cubiculi fores servant: magnorumque praefectorum et ducum haec incrementa sunt et rudimenta.

The same Amyntas had brought fifty liberos adultos of Macedonia’s chief men for a body-guard: for these wait upon the kings at table, bring them their horses when they go into battle, attend them at the chase, and stand guard in turn before the doors of their bedroom; and these duties are the novitiate and training-school of great prefects and generals
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Curtius VIII 6 ii
Mos erat, ut supra dictum est, principibus Macedonum adultos liberos regibus tradere ad munia haud multum servilibus ministeriis abhorrentia. 3 Excubabant servatis noctium vicibus proximi foribus eius aedis, in qua rex adquiescebat. Per hos pelices introducebantur alio aditu, quam quem armati obsidebant. 4 Iidem acceptos ab agasonibus equos, cum rex ascensurus esset, admovebant comitabanturque et venantem et in proeliis omnibus, artibus studiorum liberalium exculti. 5 Praecipuus honor habebatur, quod licebat sedentibus vesci cum rege. Castigandi eos verberibus nullius potestas praeter ipsum erat. 6 Haec cohors velut seminarium ducum praefectorumque apud Macedonas fuit: hinc habuere posteri reges, quorum stirpi post multas aetates Romani opes ademerunt.

It was the custom, as was said before, for the leading men of the Macedonians to entrust their sons to the king on their coming of age for duties not very different to the services of slaves. They kept watch at night in turn close to the doors of the room in which the king slept. By these youths concubines were brought in by a different entrance from that before which armed guards were posted. They also received horses from the grooms, brought them to the reigning king when he was about to mount and accompanied him in the chase and in battle, besides being thoroughly trained in all the accomplishments of liberal studies. The special honour was paid them of being allowed to sit at table with the king. No one had the power of chastising them with flogging except the king himself. This troupe among the Macedonians was a kind of training school for generals and governors of provinces; from these also their posterity had the kings from whose stock after many ages the Romans took away all power.”


One thing to notice is that the Pages are distinguished in this last passage from the ‘armed guards’, implying that they themselves were unarmed. It is only here that the claim that the Pages fought with the king occurs. Previously in Curtius they bring the king his horse when he is going into battle but it is not stated that they join him. Nor does Arrian go beyond them collecting his horse from the grooms and helping him mount. The best way to resolve this is to look at those occasions when the Pages are stated to have fought.
I don’t think you can infer that the ‘paides’ were unarmed from this. ‘Armigeri’ means fully armed – shield, helmet, body armour, spear – and would be appropriate for guards without, on sentry duty at doors etc, but inappropriate for guards within, whom we might expect to not wear shields or armour, but who would nevertheless have sword or ‘longche’, for unarmed ‘paides’ would be totally useless as inner guards against an armed assassin. Nor is it true that this is the only place that refers to them fighting. Aelian ( above) says they were “trained ready for action” and in Curtius VIII.6.2 above, as you agree, they accompany the King “in the chase and in battle”.
Diodoros XVII 36 v

οἱ δὲ τοῦ βασιλέως παῖδες καταλαβόμενοι τὴν τοῦ Δαρείου σκηνὴν τἀκείνου λουτρὰ καὶ δεῖπνα παρεσκευάζοντο καὶ λαμπάδων πολλὴν πυρὰν ἅψαντες προσεδέχοντο τὸν Ἀλέξανδρον, ὅπως ἀπὸ τοῦ διωγμοῦ γενόμενος καὶ καταλαβὼν ἑτοίμην πᾶσαν τὴν παρασκευὴν τοῦ Δαρείου οἰωνίσηται τὴν ὅλην τῆς Ἀσίας ἡγεμονίαν

The royal pages now took over the tent of Dareios and prepared Alexander's bath and dinner and, lighting a great blaze of torches, waited for him, that he might return from the pursuit and, finding ready for him all the riches of Dareios, take it as an omen for his conquest of the empire of all Asia.

Clearly the Pages here are NOT fighting with Alexander who is away in pursuit of the enemy, they merely take over the tent of Dareios and make a bath ready, the sort of therapeia that was their duty.
The only other instance where they are named as part of a fighting force is in the emergency at Zariaspa/Baktra in 328 at Arrian IV 16...
There is also the incident at the Granicus when Aretis is asked for another spear (Arrian I.15.6) where he is described as ‘anaboleus twn Basilikoi’/groom or servant who helps the King mount – the very function of the paides according to all sources. Aretis is therefore highly likely a ‘pais’, and we have a third example of them in combat. I am rather radically going to suggest a fourth, which I cannot prove, but which seems likely. At Gaugemala, Arrian describes how some chariots were let through, and dealt with in the rear by the Companion’s grooms and the ‘hypaspistai basilikoi’ [Arrian III.13]....but this cannot be, for Arrian tells us slightly earlier that that the Agema and other Hypaspists formed the right of the infantry phalanx, next to the right wing cavalry, just where one would expect them to be, not skulking behind the battle line with the grooms/servants. Logically, just as the grooms were behind the Companion cavalry to support them with water, a spare horse, or a new spear and to fight if necessary, we would expect the ‘paides’ to be in a similar position to the rear of Alexander and his entourage carrying out a similar function. I would therefore suggest emending ‘hypaspistai basilikoi’ to ‘paides basilikoi’. This function and placement also explains how, being in the immediate rear of Alexander and his entourage, whilst taking no active part in the battle that we are told of, the mounted ‘paides’ could be the first to arrive at Darius’ tent at Issus and secure it before looters from the army arrived. [Diodorus quote above]
“He also sent Coenus and Artabazus into Scythia, because he was informed that Spitamenes had fled for refuge thither; but he himself with the rest of his army traversed Sogdiana and easily reduced all the places still held by the rebels.
While Alexander was thus engaged, Spitamenes, accompanied by some of the Sogdianian exiles, fled into the land of the Scythians called Massagetians, and having collected floo horsemen from this nation, he came to one of the forts in Bactriana. Falling upon the commander of this fort, who was not expecting any hostile demonstration, and upon those who were keeping guard with him, he destroyed the soldiers, and capturing the commander, kept him in custody. Being emboldened by the capture of this fort, a few days after he approached Zariaspa; but resolving not to attack the city, he marched away after collecting a great quantity of booty. But at Zariaspa a few of the Companion cavalry had been left behind on the score of illness, and with them Peithon, son of,Sosicles, who had been placed over the royal household of attendants at Zariaspa, and Aristonicus the harper. These men, hearing of the incursion of the Scythians, and having now recovered from their illness, took their arms and mounted their horses. Then collecting eighty mercenary Grecian horsemen, who had been left behind to guard Zariaspa, and some of the royal pages, they sallied forth against the Massagetians. Falling upon the Scythians, who had no suspicion of such an event, they deprived them of all the booty at the first onset, and killed many of those who were driving it off. But as no one was in command, they returned without any regard to order: and being drawn into an ambush by Spitamenes and other Scythians, they lost seven of the Companions and sixty of the mercenary cavalry. Aristonicus the harper was also slain there, having proved himself a brave man, beyond what might have been expected of a harper. Peithon, being wounded, was taken prisoner by the Scythians.


[3]…Κοῖνον δὲ καὶ Ἀρτάβαζον ὡς ἐς Σκύθας, ὅτι ἐς Σκύθας καταπεφευγέναι Σπιταμένης αὐτῷ ἐξηγγέλλετο, αὐτὸς δὲ ξὺν τῇ λοιπῇ στρατιᾷ ἐπιὼν τῆς Σογδιανῆς ὅσα ἔτι πρὸς τῶν ἀφεστηκότων κατείχετο ταῦτα οὐ χαλεπῶς ἐξῄρει. [4] ἐν τούτοις δὲ Ἀλεξάνδρου ὄντος Σπιταμένης τε καὶ σὺν αὐτῷ τῶν Σογδιανῶν τινες φυγάδων ἐς τῶν Σκυθῶν τῶν Μασσαγετῶν καλουμένων τὴν χώραν ξυμπεφευγότες ξυναγαγόντες τῶν Μασσαγετῶν ἱππέας ἑξακοσίους ἀφίκοντο πρός τι φρούριον τῶν κατὰ τὴν Βακτριανήν. [5] καὶ τῷ τε φρουράρχῳ οὐδὲν πολέμιον προσδεχομένῳ ἐπιπεσόντες καὶ τοῖς ξὺν τούτῳ τὴν φυλακὴν ἔχουσιν τοὺς μὲν στρατιώτας διέφθειραν, τὸν φρούραρχον δὲ ἑλόντες ἐν φυλακῇ εἶχον. θαρσήσαντες δὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ φρουρίου τῇ καταλήψει ὀλίγαις ἡμέραις ὕστερον Ζαριάσποις πελάσαντες τῇ μὲν πόλει προσβαλεῖν ἀπέγνωσαν, λείαν δὲ πολλὴν περιβαλλόμενοι ἤλαυνον. [6] ἦσαν δὲ ἐν τοῖς Ζαριάσποις νόσῳ ὑπολελειμμένοι τῶν ἑταίρων ἱππέων οὐ πολλοὶ καὶ ξὺν τούτοις Πείθων τε ὁ Σωσικλέους, ἐπὶ τῆς βασιλικῆς θεραπείας τῆς ἐν Ζαριάσποις τεταγμένος, καὶ Ἀριστόνικος ὁ κιθαρῳδός. καὶ οὗτοι αἰσθόμενοι τῶν Σκυθῶν τὴν καταδρομήν ῾ἤδη γὰρ ἐκ τῆς νόσου ἀναρρωσθέντες ὅπλα τε ἔφερον καὶ τῶν ἵππων ἐπέβαινον᾽ ξυναγαγόντες τούς τε μισθοφόρους ἱππέας ἐς ὀγδοήκοντα, οἳ ἐπὶ φυλακῇ τῶν Ζαριάσπων ὑπολελειμμένοι ἦσαν, καὶ τῶν παίδων τινὰς τῶν βασιλικῶν ἐκβοηθοῦσιν ἐπὶ τοὺς Μασσαγέτας. [7] καὶ τῇ μὲν πρώτῃ προσβολῇ οὐδὲν ὑποτοπήσασι τοῖς Σκύθαις ἐπιπεσόντες τήν τε λείαν ξύμπασαν ἀφείλοντο αὐτοὺς καὶ τῶν ἀγόντων τὴν λείαν οὐκ ὀλίγους ἀπέκτειναν. ἐπανιόντες δὲ αὐτοὶ ἀτάκτως, ἅτε οὐδενὸς ἐξηγουμένου, ἐνεδρευθέντες πρὸς Σπιταμένους καὶ τῶν Σκυθῶν τῶν μὲν ἑταίρων ἀποβάλλουσιν ἑπτά, τῶν δὲ μισθοφόρων ἱππέων ἑξήκοντα. καὶ Ἀριστόνικος ὁ κιθαρῳδὸς αὐτοῦ ἀποθνήσκει, οὐ κατὰ κιθαρῳδὸν ἀνὴρ ἀγαθὸς γενόμενος. πείθων δὲ τρωθεὶς ζῶν λαμβάνεται πρὸς τῶν Σκυθῶν


The Pages here are not with Alexander who is campaigning but are at a base camp along with convalescents and Court Entertainers. Some of them (tinas) ride out to battle, presumably the elder age cohort(s) making it unlikely that any are serving with Alexander.

As an aside this strengthens E Carney’s suspicions ('The Role of the Basilikoi paides at the Argaead Court' in Macedonian Legacies: Studies in Ancient Macedonian History and Culture in Honor of Eugene N. Borza
Timothy Howe (Editor), Jeanne Reames ) that the underlying cause for Hermolaos’ violent reaction was that Alexander was denying his manhood, this would be even more the case if Hermolaos and co had recently killed their men in this ambush of the Scythians then by killing his boar Hermolaos had actually become a man according to Macedonian custom, which would make the charge of ‘hubris’ levelled at Alexander quite justified.
...according to Noriko Sawada, young Makedones were not allowed to recline at ‘symposia’ until they had killed their first boar – therefore nothing to do with becoming an adult ?
What evidence there is, as opposed to what is inferred, shows that the Pages had no active military function, they were non-combatants except in extremis.
I agree with this, as I explained above, their likely position and role in combat was behind the battle line supporting the King and his entourage as the grooms supported the Companion cavalry. From that position they could “watch and learn” as well as gain experience in the sights and sounds of battle, whilst remaining relatively safe. They could also take part in other relatively safe actions such as pursuit after combat.
This means that those occasions which refer to combat situations do not refer to the Pages.
That is a rather ‘black-and-white’ statement, which is demonstrably untrue from the above. Whilst perhaps not intended to take an active role in pitched battle, off the battlefield they could and did occasionally see combat, as we have seen.....
In Curtius the ‘iuvenes’ of these passages are typically ‘noblissimi’ and that links these men with the Royal pages who are termed ‘pueri noblissimi’ at VIII 6 vii and X 5 viii. The natural conclusion is that the pueri grew into the iuvenes.
Probably, or they might just be alternate terms for the same body.....
In Arrian there is a body who are called ‘hetairoi’ yet are hypaspists who may well be termed Hoi Bailikoi Hypaspistai elsewhere. Theopompos rules out this body being the ‘Pezhetairoi’ whose selection was based on stature and looks, with no rank qualification.

At the murder of Philip II three guards chase down Pausanias, Perdikkas, Leonattos and Attalos, all of whom are young nobles and probably members of this group, the concentration of noble recruits would seem hard to explain if they were not part of a solidly noble unit.
As Alexias pointed out, these three were all 20 or so, making them ‘epheboi’, yet they were also ‘somatophylakes/bodyguards’. Philip’s probably fully armed ‘doryphoroi/hypaspists’ kept their distance [Diod XVI.94]. So they are not ‘hypaspists’. Pausanias has a celtic dagger concealed under his clothes, so he and almost certainly the others don’t seem to be fully armed (unlike the doryphoroi/hypaspists). What other ‘inner body’ of ‘bodyguards’ do we have ? The ‘paides’ !! They are the right age, and in the right place as an ‘inner’ bodyguard. And the paides’ are the ONLY “solidly noble unit” that we can definitely say were composed entirely of nobles, and the sons of the “leading Macedonians” at that.

More to come in response to Agesilaos' other posts.....

Edit: footnote added:

** In Arrian the full passage reads; " ....Μακεδόνων τοὺς παῖδας ὅσοι ἐς ἡλικίαν ἐμειρακιεύοντο καταλέγεσθαι... " and the word ' emeirakieuonto' that refers to beyond puberty is preceded by 'hlikia', which refers to men in their prime, of military age [LSJ] so once again the combined words clearly refer to 18-20 year-olds, not yet adults.
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Don't have the time to give this what it deserves. I need to be laid up and re-pitched...
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Agesilaos wrote:At the murder of Philip II three guards chase down Pausanias, Perdikkas, Leonattos and Attalos, all of whom are young nobles and probably members of this group, the concentration of noble recruits would seem hard to explain if they were not part of a solidly noble unit.
As Alexias pointed out, these three were all 20 or so, making them ‘epheboi’, yet were also ‘somatophylakes/bodyguards’. Philip’s probably fully armed ‘doryphoroi/hypaspists’ kept their distance [Diod XVI.94]. So they are not ‘hypaspists’. Pausanias has a celtic dagger concealed under his clothes, so he and almost certainly the others don’t seem to be fully armed (unlike the doryphoroi/hypaspists).
That does not follow. Whatever age one might speculate for these "bodyguards" (and Diodorus uses both doryphoroi and somatophylakes; Plutarch has Pausanias as doryphorus), they are all of the same group. They are all armed as well, unless we postulate that Leonnatus, Attalus and Perdiccas also concealed weapons upon themselves. It is the nature of the weapon that is significant: a Keltikēn makhairan. The Loeb translates the passage as "a Celtic dagger under his cloak". McQueen's translation is far closer: "a Celtic dagger concealed about his person". Either way, if he hid it under his khlamys this could be - and was - worn with armour.The three aforementioned chase Pausanias and kill him and they clearly do this with weapons they are carying, one strongly suspects, in plain sight. The only weapons mentioned are spears. I would see that the doryphoroi and somatophylakes are the one thing. If not, the two guard troops are armed in the same fashion. It is likely that some are already posted within the theatre and the rest, because he does not want to enter surrounded by a cohort of doryphoroi (the image of the tyrant to the Greeks) are ordered to hold off and follow in at a distance.
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Bacon's addage applies to all, so you'll have to explain how Alexander can say that Hermolaos et al are of an when slaves are allowed to beat them; something that would be beyond illegal, and verging on the sacriligious if it were to happen to an ephebe. Alexander being left as regent at 16 surely argues for earlier adultishhood than later, we cannot argue from the sources acceptance of the position as they all know who he became, but that Philip left him in such a position and the army followed him speaks for his age not being a barrier, following a child into battle does not seem to have been a Macedonian trait.

The only time that the arrival of Paides is mentioned is the party with Amyntas. Since there were clearly Pages at Issos, this cannot have been the first tranche to arrive (contra Hammond) and as every year probably saw an arrival (at least until the expedition plunged into India, where Alexander was thought lost), there had to be something about these 50 boys that merited a mention, the only real candidate is that it was these boys that formed the Conspiracy.

I will deal with Gaugamela, presently. On killing a man and a boar, marking a rite of passage to manhood, I have yet to discover the actual source but I will. For Philip's murder et al, that's in the next bit where, in my scheme, it belongs :lol:

Interleaving seems a good approach when answering many points, I would request a higher level of referencing if possible, (obviously, no need to supply the same quotes over and over again) sometimes things are claimed as 'attested' without saying where, which is frustrating if yo want to check it; and I am aware of my own guilt on this, so I appreciate the problems of not being near ones books (and the embarrassment of suggesting totally the wrong source :roll: )

I have to complete the casting and painting of both forces for the battle of Dreux. 1562, so may be a rare bird for the next fortnight. I'll try to keep abreast of comments but won't be posting part II until after that (I'll imagine a sigh {not one of relief}) :P
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agesilaos wrote: I will deal with Gaugamela, presently. On killing a man and a boar, marking a rite of passage to manhood, I have yet to discover the actual source but I will. For Philip's murder et al, that's in the next bit where, in my scheme, it belongs :lol:
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But in Homer the nobles dine decently in Agamemnon’s tent, and though, in the Odyssey, Achilles and Odysseus quarrel and Agamemnon “was secretly glad thereat.” Still their disputes were useful when they were debating whether Ilium was to be taken by stratagem or battle. But even when Homer introduces the suitors as drunk, he does not portray such indecent conduct as Sophocles and Aeschylus have done, but merely mentions the hurling of an ox’s foot at Odysseus.

In their gatherings at dinner the heroes sit instead of reclining, and this sometimes happened at King Alexander’s court, according to Duris. Once, at any rate, when he entertained nearly six thousand officers, he seated them on silver stools as well as on couches, spreading purple robes on the seats. Hegesander, too, says that in Macedonia it was not customary for anyone to recline at dinner unless he had speared a wild boar without using a hunting-net. Until then they must eat sitting. Cassander, therefore, at the age of thirty-five continued to sit at meals with his father, being unable to accomplish the feat, though he was brave and a good hunter.
More about being a man (or a warrior) than attaining the age of manhood. Apparently being brave and a good hunter wasn't enough!!

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Thank you for tracking that down, Amyntoros.............whilst spearing a boar was not being part of becoming 'adult', your post does explain why spearing a boar was so important, for with it went an important right/privelege, namely to recline at dinner/the symposium. Obviously a difficult feat if 'a good hunter' like Kassandros had not achieved it by age 35. One can readily understand Hermolaus' fury at being deprived of the honour and humiliatingly punished to boot ! Also explicable is Alexander's wrath at being deprived of the chance to obtain this honour, even though the custom probably didn't apply to Royalty, he would still have welcomed the chance to 'earn' the right..........
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That does not follow. Whatever age one might speculate for these "bodyguards" (and Diodorus uses both doryphoroi and somatophylakes; Plutarch has Pausanias as doryphorus), they are all of the same group. They are all armed as well, unless we postulate that Leonnatus, Attalus and Perdiccas also concealed weapons upon themselves. It is the nature of the weapon that is significant: a Keltikēn makhairan. The Loeb translates the passage as "a Celtic dagger under his cloak". McQueen's translation is far closer: "a Celtic dagger concealed about his person". Either way, if he hid it under his khlamys this could be - and was - worn with armour.The three aforementioned chase Pausanias and kill him and they clearly do this with weapons they are carying, one strongly suspects, in plain sight. The only weapons mentioned are spears. I would see that the doryphoroi and somatophylakes are the one thing. If not, the two guard troops are armed in the same fashion. It is likely that some are already posted within the theatre and the rest, because he does not want to enter surrounded by a cohort of doryphoroi (the image of the tyrant to the Greeks) are ordered to hold off and follow in at a distance.
Diodorus does indeed use both 'doryphoroi' and 'somatophylakes', but they don’t appear to be the same group, but two distinct groups, with two different names used consistently by Diodorus’ source. I suspect Plutarch’s 400 or so years later usage, may possibly be an incorrect usage by him, or one of his sources, through failure to properly understand the original terminology.

The term ‘doryphoroi’ literally means ‘spear-carriers’ or soldiers, and came to be used in southern Greece to be a derogatory one used of the military hoplite guard of a tyrant, as Diodorus and Paralus say. A ‘somatophylax’ literally translates as “body-guard”, without the connotation necessarily of being military, or of being made up of armed soldiers. To draw a modern analogy, the British Queen has her famous red-coated military Guards units, who guard the palace and carry full military hardware [doryphoroi], but also a close protection squad - bodyguards/somatophylakes - of lightly armed policemen who are clearly not a military unit, are generally not ‘fully armed’ and do not have a military function. Consideralso the U.S. Presidents secret service protection squad, who also might properly be termed ‘somatophylakes’.

[digression before it is brought up : Yes, on occasion the word ‘somatophylakes’ is thought to have been used of Alexander’s Agema/Hypaspists, such as the Agema at Arrian III.17 where Alexander leads a raid by what is often translated “the somatophylakes and the rest of the Hypaspists “, e.g. by De Selincourt but actually reads “tous somatophylakas tous basilikoi kai tous hypaspistai” or more correctly translated “the royal body-guards, and the shield-bearing infantry/Hypaspists” e.g. by Chinook, and similarly at IV.3 where we have “tous te somatophylakas kai tous hypaspitas kai tous toxotas kai tous agrianas” capturing a town and IV.30 where we have “twn somatophylakas kai twn hypaspistwn” capturing the rock of Aornus. For the sake of completeness, the remaining instances where Arrian is not speaking of the Seven are I.6, the episode at Mt Pelion, referred to before where we have “somatophylakas kai tois amo autun Hetairoi” riding together, and VI.27 where Alexander’s murdered viceroy Philip is avenged by his Macedonian bodyguards – the sole reference to non-Royal bodyguards......... I have checked all 31 usages of ‘somatophylakes’ and ‘somatophylakes ton basilikoi’ by Arrian, and nowhere is it used of the Agema, or Hypaspists. Apart from the above, the remaining references are to the Seven, such as "Ptolemy son of Lagos the Somatophylax". Clearly in Arrian, the Somatophylakes are either the Seven or the 'Bodyguards', distinct from the Agema or Hypaspists More on this anon.]

Apologies for my rendition of the Greek, but I can’t render Greek letters and have to transliterate.

To come back to Philip's assassination, the 'doryphoroi/hypaspists' ( who may still have been called 'pezhetairoi' at this time ) are a military unit, more than likely fully armed, and are kept at a distance ( Diod XVI.94.3 ) Pausanias, Leonatus, Perdiccas and Attalus are described as 'somatophylakes/bodyguards' here, and Pausanias consistently so at [XVI.93.9] as well, and are evidently physically close to the King at the time of the murder. When Pausanias strikes, some rush to the King, and some chase the assassin. Clearly the ‘somatophylakes’ are not fully armed, else Pausanias would not have needed to conceal a dagger under his clothes ( he would have carried a sword if fully equipped – note that the accounts of Justin IX.7.13 and Aelian VH 3.45 do refer to the weapon as a ‘gladius’/short sword or dagger) and if he had body armour, it would have been difficult to extract a hidden weapon.
More pertinently still, the ‘doryphoroi’/armed soldiers, are kept at a distance because Philip does not want to give any impression to his southern Greek guests that he is a Tyrant surrounded by ‘fully armed guards’, so clearly those closest to him are not of that body. They are likely dressed in civilian clothes, and lightly armed with just spears/longche, so as to carry out their role of body-guards as they are on other occasions, e.g. indoors when Cleitus is murdered [Plutarch ‘Alexander’ 51] Unarmed altogether would of course be useless.

Trivia point: An interesting analogy is of the early Imperial Praetorian Guard, who when attending the Emperor in Rome, wore civilian togas, armed solely with swords concealed beneath them for the same reason, to discourage any appearance of Tyranny....
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I am afraid this does not wash at all; Arrian frequently writes ‘the agema and the hypaspists’ (I 1 xi , I 8 iii, II 8 iii, VII 7 i) or even ‘the agema and the other hypaspists’ (III 11 ix, V 13 iv) given that all the examples of ‘somatophylakes and hypaspists’ occur in analogous combat situations and are therefore analogous constructions where ‘somatophylakes’ is used as a synonym for ‘agema’; there is no reason to posit a separate guard formation. Aristoboulos and Ptolemy do use different terms for the same thing, taxis/phalanx for the individual battalions for instance, prodromoi/sarssophoroi for another.

Were there to be then they are clearly a full military unit with combat functions and not a police force, which undermines the distinction you wish to impose on the Diodoros passage (XVI 93-4). There, the words are used by Diodoros’ Greek source for variety and should not be taken in any technical sense. In fact the description does not just oscillate between ‘doryphoroi’ and somatophylakes’ but includes the ‘spear-bearing Guards’ – doryphoroi phylakes and ‘those friends around him’ - philous keleusantos .

It is clear from the narrative that no one is around Philip when Pausanias dashes up to strike; and that is the point of a concealed drawn weapon, the ability to strike without drawing the blade gives the assassin a great advantage in surprise, maybe even more so if his sword is plainly sheathed by his side!

As a picky point, Aelian calls the weapon a ‘xiphos’ but both ‘xiphos’ and ‘gladius’ are catch all words for swords, what we would simply call a ‘gladius’ would be a ‘gladius hispaniensis’ or Spanish sword to a technically minded Roman. Both represent a later and diverse tradition, Aelian explicitly states that the account differ, though it is the significance of the chariot warning that interests him; and Justin because he uses gladius rather than pugio (a dagger) for the weapon, by implication his source used ‘xiphos’ as in Aelian.

Diodoros was only writing 100 years before Plutarch and their sources were probably both contemporary Greeks, Diodoros almost certainly used Theopompos’ ‘Philippic History’, Plutarch could have used any Greek source (the Macedonian, Marsyas seems ruled out by the general term ‘doryphoros’ rather than a specifically Macedonian term; ‘doryphoroi’ do not figure in Arrian’s narrative which follows Macedonian PT/Ar sources.)
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