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Arnold Toynbee: If Philip and Ochus had lived on

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I recently read the above essay, published in 1969. It deals with what might have happened if Philip had survived Pausanias' assassination attempt and the Persian great King Artaxerxes III Ochus had survived the poisoning by the eunuch Bagoas in about 338 BC.

I've tried various ways of attaching the bit that relates to Alexander and failed, so here it is in full:

When the foiled assassin, Pausanias, was questioned under torture, he declared that he had been acting as the agent of the ex-queen Olympias and of her son the reinstated heir apparent, Prince Alexander… We shall never know whether he (Alexander) was guilty or whether, though innocent, he feared that Attalus’ influence over Philip might move Philip to take Alexander’s guilt for granted without proof. Prince Alexander forestalled further investigation by fleeing across the border into Epirus – and his uncle and namesake the king of Epirus fled with him, abandoning his Macedonian bride. Now that King Alexander’s sister Olympias was under accusation of having plotted to have her ex-husband Philip assassinated, the king drew the same conclusion as the prince his nephew. He, too, concluded that Macedon had become too hot to hold him. The two refugees were both in a desperate mood, and Olympias knew how to work upon their feelings. Under Olympias’ potent influence, the uncle and nephew hastily decided that their only practicable means of self-defence lay in taking the offensive at once. They decided to invade Macedon forthwith, with intent either to expel Philip or to kill him and, in either case, to enthrone Prince Alexander in his stead. King Alexander called up the Epirot levy. Prince Alexander went off to enlist the Illyrians with whom he had established contact in the preceding year.

In thus challenging Philip’s overwhelmingly superior strength, the two Alexanders were counting on two supposed assets, neither of which materialised in the tragic event.

In the first place they hoped that the people of the Macedonian highland cantons, Parauaea, Tymphaea, Orestis, Lyncestis, and Elemiotis, which lay between Lower Macedon and Epirus, would rise to join forces with them in order to recover their lost autonomy. It was true that Philip had deprived them of an autonomy that had been their traditional prerogative, and that his reduction of them to the status of territories under the direct administration of the Macedonian crown had been resented – by the Orestae in particular. It was also true that, in some ways, the Parauaeans and Tymphaeans, at any rate, had less affinity with Macedon than they had with Epirus. However, the two Alexanders’ hope of enlisting the Macedonian highlanders on their side was not fulfilled. By the time the Alexanders crossed the border, the highlanders had responded to Philip’s mobilisation order. Either prudence or loyalty (who knows which?) had already brought them into the ranks of the Alexanders’ opponents.

The Alexanders’ second hope had lain in the supposed popularity of Prince Alexander himself in Macedon. It was true that, when he had left the country in the preceding year, there had been widespread concern, and it was also true that there had been no less widespread relief when he had subsequently returned and been reconciled with his father officially. Undoubtedly the prince’s fighting qualities were highly esteemed by his fellow countrymen. Macedonians admired nothing so much as courage carried to the point of foolhardiness and then justified by strength and skill in the use of arms; and Prince Alexander had given a superb exhibition of these characteristic Macedonian military virtues in the cavalry engagement at Chaeronea. However, Prince Alexander’s popularity in Macedon was subject to some serious reservations, as the event was to show. For one thing, this son of an Epirot queen was half a foreigner, and no pure-blooded Macedonian liked that. In the second place, he had become half-alienated from the rustic Macedonian and Epirot Greek way of life by the sophisticated Hellenic education that his father had perversely insisted on giving him. Philip had hired a philosopher to be Prince Alexander’s tutor, and this philosopher was a citizen of one of those colonial south-Greek city-states that had been planted along the Aegean coast of Thrace before the north-Greek Kingdom of Macedon had expanded into the adjoining hinterland. These intrusive south-Greek settlements were an eyesore to Macedonian imperialists. If Alexander’s tutor Aristotle’s home town had been, not Stagirus, but some city-state to the south of Tempe, the Macedonians might perhaps have disliked Aristotle rather less; but they would have disliked him in any case for his signal success in infecting his pupil the heir apparent with his own zeal for the city-state kind of Greek culture. These two blots (as they were, in Macedonian eyes on Alexander’s scutcheon were not of Prince Alexander’s own making, but the prince had now committed an offence that was both deliberate and grave. Macedonian public opinion might have forgiven him for rebelling against his sire and sovereign. Cut-throat strife within the bosom of the Argead dynasty was a familiar feature of Macedonian public life. But the Macedonian prince’s fellow countrymen could not forgive him for raising a band of Illyrian mercenaries and leading them in an invasion of Macedon. The Illyrians were barbarians and they were Macedon’s hereditary national enemy. For a Macedonian to make common cause with Illyrians was high treason, and, in the heir apparent to the Macedonian throne, this crime was particularly heinous. It was too heinous to be redeemed by Prince Alexander’s prowess as a fighting man.

Thus the war that the two Alexanders had started had been lost by them in advance. The hostilities were brief, and the single battle in which the fighting began and ended was short, though sharp. It was fought in Elemiotis, between the Pindus Range and the Haliakmon River. The invaders found the entire man-power of Macedon arrayed against them. While Prince Alexander had been raising his Illyrians, Attalus had been ferrying his expeditionary force back from Asia to Macedon by sea. He had lost no time in commandeering the transports; his own life hung on the issue of the impending conflict on European soil. When both Attalus’ troops and the highland levies had joined the Lower Macedonian levies, Philip had in hand an army that was a decisively superior to the Alexanders’ army in numbers as it was in discipline, equipment, and tactics. Prince Alexander fought as furiously in elemiotis in 336BC as he had fought in Boeotia two years back. But what could a single paladin do? The Illyrian and Epirot horsemen were both few and poor in quality. Furiously though the prince fought, he was taken prisoner.

This operation cost valuable Macedonian lives, but no Macedonian subject was willing to assume the responsibility for taking the life of King Philip’s son and heir. When the prince was brought, bound, into his father’s presence, Philip immediately killed him with his own hand. Philip dared not leave his traitor son alive, and no other Macedonian except the traitor’s sovereign and father dared to serve as executioner.


A few random thoughts:

I was surprised that this essay by such a famous name was rather glib and a little unrealistic.

For example, Toynbee has Philip, as well as defeating the Illyrians and Epirots above, conquer Italy, Sicily and Asia Minor as far as North Syria by 333 BC (3 years). I doubt it would have been that easy, or that the Persians with Ochus as king would not have tried repeatedly to push him further back. Philip may well have accepted the Euphrates as his eastern boundary, but it's doubtful that the Persians would have been comfortable with him there and would have eventually attacked him - something that was probably part of Alexander's justification for not accepting Darius's offer as the Eurphrates as his eastern border. It's also doubtful that the Carthaginians, Phoenicians and Egyptians would quietly have accepted a policy of non-interference from Philip.

Equally unrealistic I think is for Philip to have so easily abandoned the bridgehead gained the previous year for his Persian invasion. (I thought Parmenion was in charge of the advance party, not Attalus?) He wouldn't have needed them to deal with the Illyrians and Epirots as the bulk of his invasion force had yet to embark for Asia (I think but might be wrong). They did need to return when he was assassinated. Why he would then have gone west into Italy, even if pursing the Epirot Alexander, rather than east, is not convincingly explained as Italy had never previously figured in his plans. He would hardly have expected an invasion from Italy.

As for Toynbee's estimation of Alexander - it's improbable as well as unrealistic. Alexander would have known that the Illyrians and Epirots were no match - without some serious training - for the Macedonians. Nor would he have been able to gather an army within a few weeks to match the size of his father's standing army. He would have waited at least until the following spring before invading. And the quieter he kept, the less chance there was that Philip would come after him. Yet I also read a article recently which suggests that the Illyrians had not been quiet since the last known war about 8 years previously, so they might have been up for a fresh invasion.

It also seems highly improbable that Alexander of Epirus would have fled without being accused of anything. He had far too much to lose and Philip wouldn't have executed him out of hand as he was too valuable to protect his western border. He wouldn't really have gained anything from Philip's death, had no score to settle, and Philip would have known this and surely been prepared to trust him.

Alexander might well have initially fled to Epirus or Illyria, but would he have stayed there? Would he have ventured to Athens or Thebes? Or even Persia? Sparta? Or would Philip have tried to negotiate with him, and given him the benefit of the doubt of his guilt?

And if Alexander had planned to assassinate Philip, the eve of the invasion seems an odd time to chose. He would have wanted the chance to shine in the invasion, but would have had to be very naive to believe that Philip's death would not lead to uprisings among the Greeks which would delay the invasion. But at twenty, maybe he was.
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Many thanks for this, Alexias. I had not read it before. I do share many of your concerns, however.
Alexias wrote:I was surprised that this essay by such a famous name was rather glib and a little unrealistic.
I know that there was, for a time, a bit of a trend for "what if?" history, even among academics. This must have been one such essay.
Alexias wrote:Equally unrealistic I think is for Philip to have so easily abandoned the bridgehead gained the previous year for his Persian invasion. (I thought Parmenion was in charge of the advance party, not Attalus?) He wouldn't have needed them to deal with the Illyrians and Epirots as the bulk of his invasion force had yet to embark for Asia (I think but might be wrong). They did need to return when he was assassinated.
I assume that he focuses of Attalus because Attalus was the one who had the most to lose if Alexander won. I agree, however, that there is no reason to think that Philip would have seen the need to recall his bridgehead. However, the bridgehead didn't need to return after Philip's assassination - they were still at the Hellespont when Alexander sent Hecataeus to arrest/murder Attalus. They had been pushed back from Asia Minor, but they remained at the Hellespont. Which makes it even less likely that Philip would have felt it necessary to recall the troops had he not died! :)
Alexias wrote:As for Toynbee's estimation of Alexander - it's improbable as well as unrealistic. Alexander would have known that the Illyrians and Epirots were no match - without some serious training - for the Macedonians. Nor would he have been able to gather an army within a few weeks to match the size of his father's standing army. He would have waited at least until the following spring before invading. And the quieter he kept, the less chance there was that Philip would come after him.
Agreed, although Toynbee's thinking might have been along the lines that Alexander, in his youthful arrogance, thought that the Illyrians would win simply because he was leading them. I would have thought that Alex of Epirus might have tried to talk some sense into him; but that probably wouldn't have worked.

Add to this the fact that Toynbee has Alexander expecting half the Macedonians to come over to his side. Perhaps, when they didn't, Alexander felt confident enough in his youth to push ahead, anyway.

Generally speaking, though, I would have to agree with you that Toynbee's assessment of Alexander is implausible, here.
Alexias wrote:It also seems highly improbable that Alexander of Epirus would have fled without being accused of anything. He had far too much to lose and Philip wouldn't have executed him out of hand as he was too valuable to protect his western border. He wouldn't really have gained anything from Philip's death, had no score to settle, and Philip would have known this and surely been prepared to trust him.
Agreed. Everyone knew what Olympias was like, and Philip was too canny to think that Alexander posed a threat just because Olympias had been accused of plotting his murder. I cannot see Alexander feeling the need to run.
Alexias wrote:And if Alexander had planned to assassinate Philip, the eve of the invasion seems an odd time to chose. He would have wanted the chance to shine in the invasion, but would have had to be very naive to believe that Philip's death would not lead to uprisings among the Greeks which would delay the invasion. But at twenty, maybe he was.
One of the main arguments against Alexander having a hand in Philip's death! As a counter to this, it has been suggested that Alexander was not going to be given a place in the invasion force, and his annoyance fuelled his vengeful plans ... even knowing that the Greeks were likely to rebel wouldn't stop him, because he could then deal with Greece with more finality than Philip had done, and then mount his own invasion of Asia, rather than just joining Philip's ...

All speculation, of course. The other problem with the alternative reading that I have outlined, of course, is that it credits Alexander with quite a bit of forward planning ... and forward planning wasn't really his strong point (until, say, around 326 BC). :D

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Thanks for your reply, sorry about the delay in responding.
marcus wrote:
I know that there was, for a time, a bit of a trend for "what if?" history, even among academics. This must have been one such essay.
There is a companion, much-longer essay "If Alexander had lived on" which I lost interest in and haven't finished reading yet.
Marcus wrote: they were still at the Hellespont when Alexander sent Hecataeus to arrest/murder Attalus. They had been pushed back from Asia Minor, but they remained at the Hellespont.
I forgot about that!
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it has been suggested that Alexander was not going to be given a place in the invasion force, and his annoyance fuelled his vengeful plans ... even knowing that the Greeks were likely to rebel wouldn't stop him, because he could then deal with Greece with more finality than Philip had done, and then mount his own invasion of Asia, rather than just joining Philip's ...
It seems a little difficult to believe that an experienced king such as Philip would have excluded Alexander from the Asian campaign on emotional reasons alone, even if he was exasperated with him. He must have realised Alexander would have caused trouble. The only way to appease Alexander - and show that he was still in favour - was to make Alexander sole regent while he was away. This would keep his only viable heir out of the way if things in Asia went disasterously wrong and leave a strong presence at home, because the Greeks etc. might have tried to take advantage of Philip and his best troops being out of easy reach.
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All speculation, of course. The other problem with the alternative reading that I have outlined, of course, is that it credits Alexander with quite a bit of forward planning ... and forward planning wasn't really his strong point (until, say, around 326 BC). :D
I hadn't really thought about it like that, but you're probably right!
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Marcus,
You stated that it had been suggested that Alexander was not going to be given a position in the invasion force. Do you know where this suggestion came from? Or, more to the point, why someone would suggest this? Just curious, its the first I have heard of it.
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spitamenes wrote:Marcus,
You stated that it had been suggested that Alexander was not going to be given a position in the invasion force. Do you know where this suggestion came from? Or, more to the point, why someone would suggest this? Just curious, its the first I have heard of it.
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I have to be honest, Spitamenes, and say that I can't remember. It has certainly be discussed on this forum, but I have read it elsewhere.

It was one of those comments designed to suggest why Alexander might have had a motive to kill Philip, and there is *nothing* in the sources to suggest that this was indeed the case. But it has been cited as a possibility, based on Alexander's rather strained relationship with Philip in the last couple of years of Philip's life, and also based on the fact that Philip would have needed a regent back in Macedonia and might have been wary about putting himself and his heir in harm's way.

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marcus wrote:
spitamenes wrote:Marcus,
You stated that it had been suggested that Alexander was not going to be given a position in the invasion force. Do you know where this suggestion came from? Or, more to the point, why someone would suggest this? Just curious, its the first I have heard of it.
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I have to be honest, Spitamenes, and say that I can't remember. It has certainly be discussed on this forum, but I have read it elsewhere.
If I remember you found it in Worhtington's book on Philip. It was his claim and you remarked that no footnote was included indicating his evidence... or lack thereof for the claim.
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Paralus wrote:
marcus wrote:
spitamenes wrote:Marcus,
You stated that it had been suggested that Alexander was not going to be given a position in the invasion force. Do you know where this suggestion came from? Or, more to the point, why someone would suggest this? Just curious, its the first I have heard of it.
All the best.
I have to be honest, Spitamenes, and say that I can't remember. It has certainly be discussed on this forum, but I have read it elsewhere.
If I remember you found it in Worhtington's book on Philip. It was his claim and you remarked that no footnote was included indicating his evidence... or lack thereof for the claim.
Ah! Thank you, Paralus. I wondered whether it had been Worthington ... and I should have had more confidence in myself - it certainly sounds like a Worthington-esque statement to make. I shall have to go back and look to see if you're right and I did, indeed, find it there.

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